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> Date: 11 Feb 2005 10:54:18 -0800
> Subject: google group for grape growing
>
> BTW, figaro,
>
> you annoyed me so much I just went through Cox's book and NO WHERE does
> he mention TOP soil being 30-70" deep. You do indeed have ALOT to
> learn.
>
> Bob
>
Wow, Bob. Relax. I'm sorry I ****ed you off; it was not my intention. The
Cox reference, if I remember correctly, is when he is discussing his
personal experience with a master wine grape grower who refused him cuttings
of a specific clone until he had properly dug his trenches three feet deep
and wide and let it sit fallow over the winter. This master grower referred
to the topsoil numbers. It was a best case scenerio thing and I didn't mean
to suggest it was reality for most of us. I think it is somwhere in the
beginning when Cox is talking about his own vineyard.

I think you missed the original posters first couple of posts because my
advice was directed only at him/her. He/She is in San Diego county, as am
I, and the person I refered him/her to is Lum Eisenberg who is also in San
Diego county and one of the most knowledgeable people on this newsgroup and
knows San DIego viticulture better than most. It is a valid referral.

However, I have opinions and a ton of horticultural knowledge and I thought
I would give my advice to this fellow grower who appeared to need direction
in the area of grape growing in San Diego County. I just planted my first
grapes last month and he is expecting his first grapes shortly. I wanted to
make sure he had accurate information before he put in the vines because he
was planting upwards of 50 vines. It would be ashame to make mistakes right
off the bat. Hence the referal to Cox's book and to Lum. I appologize for
all the stress.