> > That shows how personal ethics are. The
> > people you used as examples have different
> > ethics. I'm sure though, that in at least some
> > cases they know what they're doing is wrong.
>
> You have a small amount of leeway in what you consider ethical within
the
> generally accepted standard. The idea that ethics is a personal thing
is
> just plain WRONG.

So, you think it's unethical for people to hold
their own ethics?

> > > > It may very well be ethical in someone's
> > > > ill mind, but that doesn't change the fact
> > > > that most people think it's wrong and there
> > > > are laws against it.
> > >
> > > Which means that ethics are created by consensus and we learn to
> > follow
> > > them, we don't make them up.
> >
> > Laws are often based on a consensus
> > of people who agree on an ethical point.
>
> That's right, that agreement has developed over centuries of social
> evolution, not simply "made up" by any given indivdual.

Ethics does not equal laws, although for most
people they frequently overlap for the most part.

> I never claimed that my goal was to "stop animal suffering", vegans
however
> DO make that claim, and the "fringe meat"/cd argument demonstrates
that they
> do not actually follow this purported principle.

They'd be better off going for the fringe vegan
foods. Perhaps a group renting a farmhouse
or something, if they don't have land. Not eating
fringe meats.




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