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"Ron" > wrote in message
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> In article >, "Dutch" >
> wrote:
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>> "Ron" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >, "Dutch" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Derek" > wrote
>> >>
>> >> > Ipse dixit and false. Show where Matheny's article links
>> >> > vegetarianism to the collateral deaths associated in crop
>> >> > production,
>> >>
>> >> If consuming meat links the consumer to the deaths in meat production,
>> >> and I
>> >> agree it does, then consuming rice links the consumer to the deaths in
>> >> rice
>> >> production.
>> >
>> > Links, or creating causal relationships is also known as the logical
>> > fallacy of insignificant cause.

>>
>> This is not an example of insignificant cause.
>>
>> The following example is quite parallel to the case of the rice consumer.
>>
>> "Thus, it is not a fallacy to say that you helped defeat the Tory
>> government
>> because you voted Reform, for your vote had as much weight as any other
>> vote, and hence is equally a part of the cause."
>> See the following link..
>> http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/insig.php

>
> What a powerful feeling that must be. An eating disordered person is
> likely to overestimate their impact in the world and to create
> situations where this would be viewed this way.
>
> The example is a case of insignificant cause. Is the cause of the defeat
> of the tory because the person voted reform, or because many voted
> reform, liberal and chose not to vote at all. Placing one's self at the
> centre of the universe is a frequent occurence for those who need to
> feel special, important, powerful, in control, etc.


Your ranting is becoming increasing incoherent. One does not have to be at
the centre of the universe to be responsible. If you voted Tory and they got
in, you were responsible, as responsible as everyone else who voted Tory.
The alternative is NOBODY was responsible, and that makes no sense.

You can have your own personal reality if you want, knock yourself out.

Likewise, the man who eats a burger is responsible for the death of the
steer.