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"Ron" > wrote in message
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> In article >, "Dutch" >
> wrote:
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>> "Ron" > wrote
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>> > Ray presented a logical fallacy.

>>
>> He did not.
>>
>> Given the choice which do you prefer, rice pudding or chocolate cake?

>
> I prefer neither.


Fine, question answered.

> You did create a false dilemma.


Where is the dilemma?

>> You can reply that you prefer one or the other, or that you like or
>> dislike
>> them both equally. There's no dilemma, much less a false one, no fallacy.

>
> I can also dislike them to varying degrees and prefer neither of them.


Again, no dilemma.

>> If I had proposed "Either you like chocolate cake or you are an idiot",
>> that
>> would present a false dilemma.

>
> I can't wait for your logical explanation of how one is a dilemma and
> the other isn't.


In "Given the choice which do you prefer, rice pudding or chocolate cake?" I
am simply asking a question, I place no constraints on how you answer, any
answer you wish to give is equally valid. In other words I create no dilemma
for you, I simply am seeking your opinion.

In "Either you like chocolate cake or you are an idiot", I have asserted a
conditional proposition, you either have to aquiese to one of it's
conditions or else declare it to be a false choice. I have not given you the
option of expressing your opinion freely, you either comply or else you must
declare my proposition invalid.

>> Clearly one can dislike chocolate cake and not be an idiot.
>>
>> Clearly you are suffering from cognitive dissonance.