c5 wrote:

> dgs wrote:
>
>>Are you suffering from the delusion that the likes of
>>Boddington's, Tetley's, and Caffrety's are anything
>>but mass-produced industrial beers, and not so very
>>different from the boring mass-produced lagers
>>and FMB you mention?
>
> Apparently so. Did I miss that Caffery's was competing with Bud for
> Super Bowl commercials?

You're looking in the wrong country. No matter what its country of
origin, the Caffrey's brand is owned by the company that acquired the
part of Bass's brand assets that Interbrew - er, "InBev" - had to
sell off. Wanna guess what the company is? Hint: Golden, Colorado.

And in the UK and Ireland, you'd better believe that Caffrey's is just
another mass-market brand, produced by the same company that markets
Carling lager there. Just because a brand isn't being flogged at some
American mass-media sports event doesn't mean it's not a mass-market
beer. You'll see plenty of Caffrey's brand marketing in the UK and
Ireland. Enough with the America-centric viewpoint, already.

>>Boddington's is nitro-canned flavorless crap, Tetley's
>>is bland and dull, and Caffrey's is little better than the
>>other two.
>
> Oh please. How much is *OPINION* here?

In case you haven't heard, it's *all* opinion, including your views on
the merits of mass-produced lagers like Bud, Heineken, et al. So big
deal: these are British mass-produced ales. The lot of 'em are pretty
boring, too. And it's the big guys who can afford the mass-production
facilities, including the canning lines.

>>They are closer to the likes of "Bud, Michelob,
>>Heinekin, Zima etc." than you apparently realize.
>
> Oh please again. Thing is, some beer *has* flavour. Certainly Heinekin
> does, but those others? Bland and dul indeed.

Boddington's - the stuff in the nitrocans, anyway - has flavo(u)r?
Compared to a decent ale - even a bottled product from the likes of,
say, Fuller's - no, hardly any at all. Tetley's has a little flavor.
Caffrey's? Whatever. I was quite disappointed the first time I
tried that stuff, back when it was new and featured at a Bass pub.
Nice color, but tasted of hardly anything. Fortunately, the same
pub had some Highgate Mild on cask, in middling good condition.

Boddington's is a brand owned by one of the largest brewing
conglomerates in the world. That conglomerate, due to last year's
merger, is now comparable to Anheuser-Busch in size. Boddie's is in no
way some specialty brew from a small or regional brewery, and barely
rates being mentioned in the same sentence with Hyde's, Holt's, or
Lees, located in the same British city where the Strangeways brewery
has been brewing Boddington's - a brewery that is due to be shut down
by the InBev brewing conglomerate.

> (Granted, my crap regarding "quality" cans as decor was, well,
> crap. I can always open a bewpub instead.)

Or you could score some of the Oscar Blues canned beers, if you're
fortunate enough to live where they're sold. Great stuff in those cans.
And there are other damn good canned beers, including more than a few
from Germany and the Czech Republic. But if micro-canning spreads in
the USA, you're going to see some great, flavorful canned beers out
there, and some of the packaging might even be deemed worthy enough
for your art projects.
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dgs