In article >, "Dutch" >
wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, "Dutch" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "Ron" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > In article >, "Dutch" >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> No, you refuse to accept my argument that you are responsible for the
> >> >> consequences of your own actions.
> >> >
> >> > That's right and you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In article >, "Dutch"
> >> >> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > As an adult at the age of majority, a moral actor, you are assumed to
> >> > have free will, therefore you can't blame anyone else for your
> >> > decisions. For a person who claims to advocate personal responsibility
> >> > you make odd arguments.
> >> >
> >> > **********************
> >>
> >> In your twisted mind that proves your point???
> >>
> >> YOU pay for meat.
> >>
> >> YOU are responsible for the consequences of that act.
> >
> > No, I'm not.
>
> You are irrevocably accountable for every conscious act you make. There are
> no exceptions when you dislike the outcomes.

To repeat myself, yet again, I am responsible for actions not outcomes.

> > As you write above, the responsibility lies with the moral agent who
> > made the decision to act. Blame shifting doesn't cut it for me.
>
> Then stop shifting the blame for your choice to pay for meat.

I haven't. I pay the grocer for meat. I made that clear many times. The
farmer is the one is the moral actor who makes the decision to kill.

> > The person who made the decision to kill the animal is the farmer.
> > Blaming me is for what they do is just pitiful.
>
> I'm blaming you for hiring someone to hire a killer, because you did it.

Perhaps if I believe this nonsensical theory of shared responsibility
that might work.

> >> And so it goes.. there's no way out of it.

Well, Dutch. What I can say is if that is what you believe, then you
ought to be punished for your "moral" wrongdoing. I just have no idea of
what you have in mind as the appropriate punishment for someone who does
this immoral act.