Rudy Canoza wrote:
> usual suspect wrote:
>
>>John Coleman wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>> The "ill effects" of consuming animal products is well known
>>>>
>>>>No, it isn't. Once again, you are confusing mere
>>>>polemical assertion with fact.
>>>
>>>You are out of touch Rudy,
>>
>>You were never in touch, Coleman.
>>
>>
>>>the ill effects of consuming animal products are
>>>the outcome of years of epidemiology, clinical research, and other
>>>scientific work.
>>
>>Your sentence is so shoddy that it appears you're blaming scientific
>>study for the ill effects of consuming animal products, you sissy.
>
> Wasn't that pathetic?!

That's standard practice in his circle jerk.

> He wrote,
>
> the ill effects of consuming animal products are the outcome
> of...research.
>
> Nice.
>
>
>>>They are therefore well known.
>>
>>Logical fallacy of appealing to popular knowledge. To date, studies
>
> have
>
>>shown that overconsumption of certain animal products, especially
>
> fatty
>
>>meat, can have deleterious health consequences. But conversely, some
>>studies have shown consumption particularly of fish and poultry to
>
> have
>
>>very positive health benefits: reduced incidence of colorectal
>
> cancers,
>
>>significant improvements in LDL:HDL and triglycerides, etc.
>>
>>
>>>Both heart disease and
>>>cancer are major killers that have been associated with eating
>
> animal
>
>>>products.
>>
>>Ipse dixit, poor generalization. The latest red meat study which
>
> you'll
>
>>no doubt put on your pseudoscience website showed a significant
>>reduction in colorectal cancer rates among those who ate more poultry
>
>
>>and fish. As well, the studies upon which you rely seldom distinguish
>
>
>>between lean meats and fatty meats, reduced-fat dairy products and
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> whole
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>>milk products, etc. IOW, you like to compare apples to oranges and
>
> make
>
>>wild claims accordingly.
>
>
> Coleman and Larry Fruity and Peril and all the other
> pseudo-science-spewing vegetarian extremists ALWAYS get this point
> wrong. EVERY scientifically credible study indicates that *excessive*
> meat consumption, particularly fat, is the problem, NOT meat
> consumption per se.

You can even say that it's the excessive consumption of *saturated*
fats, including transfats. Many cardiologists recommend their patients
increase their consumption of fatty fish rich in omega-3 FAs. Not all
animal fats are "bad" -- some are much more healthful than some
plant-derived fats.