On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:09:04 GMT, usual suspect > wrote:

>Claire's morbidly obese, self-crippled Uncle Dreck wrote:
>>>>>An unemployed, self-crippled ex-greasemonkey and a reflexologist who
>>>>>infect these newsgroups with their ignorance of science and the
>>>>>scientific method claim on the basis of a study by Sneddon, et al, that
>>>>>fish experience pain. These two misinformed charlatans have refused to
>>>>>accept any other study, suggesting that the study of Sneddon, et al,
>>>>>trumps every other one in the history of scientific research.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dr James Rose, who's studied animal neurology for thirty years, has
>>>>>refuted the conclusions of Sneddon, Braithwaite, and Gentle. In his
>>>>>critique of their conclusions, Dr Rose pointed to specific flawed
>>>>>definitions and specific flawed interpretations of the researchers in
>>>>>their published findings.
>>>>>
>>>>>Among the flaws were an *improper* distinction between pain and
>>>>>nociception,
>>>>
>>>>Which he
>
>POINTED OUT. Sneddon, et al, did *not* prove fish feel pain:
> Rather than proving a capacity for pain, these results show a
> remarkable resistance to oral trauma by the trout. It comes as
> no surprise, then, that many anglers have had the experience of
> catching the same fish repeatedly within a span of a few
> minutes.

Affirmation of the consequent.

1) If hooked fish feel no pain, then they will be caught again within a few minutes.
2) They are caught again within a few minutes
therefore
3) hooked fish feel no pain.

Are you going to claim that certain mammals caught in
steel-jawed traps suffer no pain when chewing through
their limbs to get free, Tex?