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"John Coleman" > wrote
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> "Jay Santos" > wrote in message
> k.net...
>> Not good enough. "vegans" claim to live
>> "cruelty-free"

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> where?
>
>>, and their (faulty) reasons for being
>> "vegan" in the first place *demand* that they actually
>> attain it. They fail. The counting game is a fraud.

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> it does not, the definition includes the word "seek", not "attain"


Posing is not seeking.