"Jay Santos" > wrote in message
k.net...
> Not good enough. "vegans" claim to live
> "cruelty-free"

where?

>, and their (faulty) reasons for being
> "vegan" in the first place *demand* that they actually
> attain it. They fail. The counting game is a fraud.

it does not, the definition includes the word "seek", not "attain"

John