Scented Nectar wrote:

>>>>>No, I think I want to go further and cut out all remaining
>>>>>cheese, eggs, etc.
>>>>
>>>>Not for any valid ethical or health reasons, of course,
>>>>but rather because you think, wrongly, that doing so
>>>>will somehow make you virtuous.
>>>
>>>
>>>Wrong. It's for both health and ethical reasons.
>>
>>Baloney. It certainly is not for any *valid* ethical
>>reasons, as I have shown. And it isn't for health
>>reasons, as a total abstinence from animal products
>>does not make you ANY healthier than someone who
>>consumes animal products in moderate amounts.
>
>
> You've not shown me anything that invalidates my
> beliefs or opinions.

I have, but you've chosen not to see them. What else
are you pretending not to know?

Anyway, see my lengthier response to your other post;
just a moment ago.

>>>>>I'm happy enough with that knowledge, and it makes
>>>>>feel better knowing it's the lesser of the cds.
>>>>
>>>>You shouldn't be. The moral beliefs giving rise to the
>>>>fatuous idea of "veganism" demand that you get rid of
>>>>ALL CDs from your "lifestyle", or at least be able to
>>>>make a compelling accounting for your efforts to have
>>>>done so. No "vegan" makes such an effort, EVER. It's
>>>>all blather.
>>>
>>>
>>>Don't tell me what moral beliefs I should have.
>>
>>I'm not.
>
>
> Yes you are. You said "You shouldn't be.

I said you shouldn't be feeling better about what
you're doing. What you are doing is not a valid
ethical response. Refraining from consuming animal
parts does not lead to a more just outcome.

> The moral
> beliefs giving rise to the fatuous idea of "veganism"
> demand that you get rid of ALL CDs from your "lifestyle",
> or at least be able to make a compelling accounting for
> your efforts to have done so." No one's demanding
> that I take on that moral belief except you!

You already DID take it on; then you retreated from it,
without really understanding what was wrong with it.
The position to which you retreated is even worse.

>
>
>>>The best anyone can do is the best they can do. If this
>>>means I've greatly reduced the cds instead of
>>>eliminating them completely, then so be it.
>>
>>You have no legitimate basis for your smug
>>self-satisfaction. However, you DO reveal that
>>self-flattery and self-aggrandizement was your ONLY
>>goal, all along.
>
>
> It sounds like you're mad that I'm content with who I
> am and what I do.

I'm unwilling to accept your FALSE and smug
characterization of who you are and what you do. You
are determined to view yourself as "more moral" than
others, and you have no basis for doing so. You are
making your virtue contingent on a comparison with
others, and you demonize those others in order to view
yourself as more moral. It stinks.

> Maybe you're upset that I don't fit
> into your stereotype, the 'religion' of veganism.

You most certainly DO fit it!