The 23 litre carboys I use are not tulip shaped but upright with a flat
shoulder and short neck. They are, I believe made in Italy. The ones you
mention which, if they are the same as I think, come in a plastic basket and
have a very long neck and have a quite wide maximum diameter --- and are
just not very good -- even the neck is very wide and difficult to stopper.
You don't say where you are but there is a very good on line Home brew shop
which is based in Aldershot.
www.the-home-brew-shop.co.uk but they will not sell glass products on line.

or just do a search to find one nearer to you. There are lots of them
around. Very few, if any on line shops will sell glass anyway!

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Trevor A Panther
In South Yorkshire, England
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alien" > wrote in message
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> All of the large glass carbouys I've seen have been tulip shaped with a
> long stemmed mouth, hardly optimised for space, which I don't have a great
> deal of. After a bit more hunting, I discovered www.hopandgrape.co.uk
> which sell a 30 and 50 litre stainless steel bin that looks like it might
> be suitable. They also do a better shaped glass carbouy than I have
> previously seen, but they prefer not to mail order these items. However
> they are in county Durham, and a friend regularly drives there, so I'll
> pick some up next time he does. As for weight, said friend has arms like
> tree trunks and seems to be immune to the physics of weight and inertia.
> He also likes my wine.