On 6/3/2021 3:58 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 06:40:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 9:01:15 AM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 04:53:05 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 7:27:42 AM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure what "calls past" means (I even looked it up).
>>>>
>>>> We would say "drops by".
>>>
>>> Somebody knocks or rings on the door when I'm not expecting it I
>>> don't even look out peephole 19 out of 20 times. The door doesn't
>>> get opened.
>>>
>>> I was cornered by a roofing salesman a couple weeks ago ("Kyle")
>>> while I was sitting on the porch and I told him "Not interested.
>>> Keep on walking" before he even entered the driveway. Then 10 more
>>> times... "Please leave", "Just go away", "Get off my property",
>>> "stop walking. Turn around. DO NOT COME ANY CLOSER", "get the ****
>>> off my property", :"Now get the **** out of my yard!", "Yo! WTF IS
>>> YOUR PROBLEM DUDE!?!".... all the while he's trying to sell me a
>>> roof while advancing on me on the porch criticizing my 'attitude',
>>> criticising, my lawn, my trees, my bushes (which I had just trimmed
>>> and were spread out all over the yard)... "May I ask who did your
>>> roof last time?"
>>
>> "Please show me your peddler's license."
>>
>> That lets them know you're willing to call the police on them. They
>> usually stop when we say that.
>
> Our jurisdictions don't require solicitation permits. And the
> Cities that do, they're being shot down by higher courts. The
> Supreme Court has ruled that solicitors of any sort are allowed to
> bug the shit out of you by knocking on you door to deliver any
> message they want, provided it's a "proper time and place". I shit
> you not.
>
> While you can get somebody for trespassing, that's only after you
> deliver notice to *specific* individuals witnessed by a Judge or
> police officer. And only then can subsequent ingresses be
> prosecutable. And getting a cop out to delver a residential
> trespass warning and file it is near impossible (around here).
>
> The only other way it's prosecutable is if you have a
> fence/wall/gates and they scale it to get onto your property. But
> 99.5% of residential areas have laws about front-facing fences,
> walls, and gates saying that they may only start at the edge of your
> house (except on a corner lot), leaving street entry open to your
> front door. And thereby fair game for solicitors. I shit you not
> again.
>
> Is that ****ed up or what? And people wonder why those "no
> solicitation" signs don't work.
>
> I found a loophol,e though. The law regarding it being unlawful to
> enter "Crime Scene" areas marked by tape or other notices, DOES NOT
> have a provision saying that it must be placed by an authority to be
> unlawful to pass. So I'm going to order 7,500 feet of yellow
> "Crime Scene - DO NOT ENTER" tape. While I only need to wrap it
> around the front of the house, 7,500 feet is the minimum order. I
> can sell some to my neighbors at $.03/foot (cost).
>
> I should have been a lawyer.
>
> -sw
>

I imagine before too long you will be a jailhouse lawyer.