Hank Rogers wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2021-04-30 4:11 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 3:43:10 PM UTC-4, Michael Trew wrote:
> > .
> >>> I'm assuming you are talking about socialist health care like
> >>> Canada or
> >>> some European countries. Trust me, you'll pay for it in the end
> >>> with
> >>> higher taxes and/or lower quality health care.
> >>
> >> Would you rather have "lower quality health care" or none at all?
> >> Now that there's no mandate to buy health insurance, are
> >> you going to do without?
> >>
> >> The sort of national health program like they have in Canada is
> >> pretty much just like commercial insurance, except the risk pool
> >> is the entire country and it's not optional. The per-capita
> >> cost is less than the U.S. pays: $5418 in Canada versus $10966
> >> in the U.S. And Canadians are not exactly dying in the streets.
> >> The
> >> life expectancy in Canada is 81.2 years, while it's 78 in the U.S.
> >>
> >> Faceless bureaucrats decide who gets care whether they work
> >> for the government or for an insurance company.
> >
> >
> > There has been lot of misinformation in the US about the Canadian
> > health care system. They talk about how expensive it is, but as you
> > pointed out, we pay less than Americans. The government spends
> > less per capita on health care than the US government, and everyone
> > is covered. We live longer. Wait times? They have been grossly
> > exaggerated. We can thank the lobbyists for the for profit health
> > care system for those lies.
> >
> >
> Yes, Canada is wonderful! AMEN
https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/...h-care-system/
Is Canada the Right Model for a Better U.S. Health Care System?
19 May 2017
[...]
....Still, €śthere are some things we can learn€ť by studying the Canadian system, Pauly argues. €śNumber one, although in many ways the system looks like ours, the system has a much greater emphasis on primary care and less emphasis on specialist care and hospitalization, and on complex and costly procedures. And that probably contributes a lot to the lower spending [in Canada], because while primary care can be good for you, expensive procedures such as for cancer may add only a few months of life but cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.€ť
Pauly adds, €śOrdinary people in Canada are healthier than in the U.S., but outcomes for cancer and very serious illnesses are less good there. Its a great place to live as long as you dont get too sick, as one critic put it.€ť
Another fact that might dissuade Americans from duplicating the Canadian model, Pauly adds, is that €śCanadians have a longer waiting list for things like joint replacement, so if your hips are killing you in Canada, you may wait months for that [surgery] to happen. In the U.S., the orthopedic surgeons are calling you every day, wondering when you are going to come in for your joint replacement procedure. We probably do too many; they probably do too few. But the safety valve for Canada is that they can always come across the border, and have a procedure done here.€ť
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