Ophelia wrote:

> On 09/04/2021 01:42, cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > > On 2021-04-07 2:43 p.m., Leo wrote:
> > > > On 2021 Apr 7, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
> > > > (in
> > > > >)
> > > > :
> > > >
> > > > > Here are some data:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
<https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...actogenicity.h
> > > > > tml>
> > > > >
> >
<https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...reactogenicity.
> > > > > html>
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like it's from the trials, since there's mention of
> > > > > placebos.
> > > >
> > > > Here´s some other data.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
<https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/expect/after.html>
> > > >
> > > > The only two people who have received both shots, that I know,
> > > > had one show no symptoms and the other be mildly ill for a day
> > > > or so. The three over-seventies in our household will be
> > > > getting the second Moderna dose on Friday. Wish us luck.
> > >
> > >
> > > When I checked out of the vaccination clinic yesterday I said " Oh
> > > boy. I can go back to partying like the way I have been for the
> > > last 12 months". The guy had a disapproving look on his face and
> > > reminded me that we still have to wear masks and socially
> > > distance, to which I said "Yes, like I have been for the last 12
> > > months."
> > >
> > >
> > > We are back in lock down here. The province just announced another
> > > Stay At Home order to be in effect for the next four weeks.
> >
> > It will be a while still for all of us. My area has been generally
> > 'stay at home' since March 2019. Essential shopping only
> > (groceries, hardware stores when things break, take out food). Some
> > small changes like outdoor restaruants (closed in winter). Some
> > bars were allowed to open in June with serious restrictions on
> > number allowed in. The one Don goes to has a capacity of seating
> > 50, they allowed only 15 and same now. Patrons have settled into a
> > schedule of when they come and chairs have to be on little x marks
> > that are 6 feet from any other chair. Masks are lifted for a sip,
> > then lowered. It's been crazy but that is true of all places.
>
> =====
>
> Not all places here. We are lucky!

SAdly the USA seems to have been the leaders in infection rates though
not sure on %deaths. That may mean a stronger reaction of shut downs.
A few states didn't shut down and had a massive surge because folks
carried on as normal.