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Covid19 shot
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 11:01:50 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:
>On 3/14/2021 10:07 AM, Pamela wrote:
>> On 15:30 14 Mar 2021, Taxed and Spent said:
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>>> On 3/14/2021 8:18 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 07:59:09 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/14/2021 7:48 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 05:33:30 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are missing the point - two points, actually.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. These are EXPERIMENTAL vaccines, because to be fully
>>>>>>> approved the
>>> y
>>>>>>> need YEARS of study.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. You do realize that there are several types of Covid
>>>>>> vaccines out there right now, yeah?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bad things sometime happen after a lot of time has elapsed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah and every single pharmaceutical and OTC drug is required
>>>>>> to report adverse reactions to the FDA. This isn't just for new
>>>>>> drugs, either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The more people who are taking a med, the more likely an
>>>>>> adverse reaction, if inherent or wildly incidental, will show
>>>>>> up. This is jus
>>> t
>>>>>> numbers, not woo-woo-new-med sort of thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did a study for a common brand of NSAID that had been on the
>>>>>> market
>>>
>>>>>> for decades, and if any of the participants said they'd had so
>>>>>> much a
>>> s
>>>>>> an uncomfortable hiccup they felt happened while taking it, my
>>>>>> compan
>>> y
>>>>>> had to file that with the FDA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No system is foolproof, and millions of user and doses can show
>>>>>> up anomalies that smaller, trial numbers might not reveal, but
>>>>>> trying t
>>> o
>>>>>> scare folks off because these vaccines are "new" is pretty
>>>>>> lame.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Being aware and cautious regarding EXPERIMENTAL vaccines
>>>>>>> does not
>>>
>>>>>>> make one an anti-vaxxer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are not "experimental", there should be no fear of them
>>>>>> because
>>>
>>>>>> of such an false implications like yours, and so, yeah, you're
>>>>>> an anti-vaxxer for taking that stance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That said, I make no personal comment about anything regarding
>>>>>>> these
>>>
>>>>>>> vaccines or whether one should or should not take them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Um...yeah, you did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Um, no I didn't.
>>>>
>>>> Yup...if it quacks and walks like a duck, it's a duck, hon.
>>>> You're a dumb duck.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are experimental in that they have not been licensed. They
>>>>> have been given Emergency Use Authorization. Studies are still
>>>>> underway.
>>>>
>>>> They are not experimental. You can try to make use of that word
>>>> for fun, but that does not make it applicable in this situation.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/
>>>> emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained
>>>>>
>>>>> Take the shot. I am not saying not to.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, you are not intelligent enough to carry this on any
>>>> longer.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What are the plans for continued monitoring of COVID-19 vaccines
>>> authorized by FDA for emergency use?
>>>
>>> FDA expects vaccine manufacturers to include in their EUA requests
>>> a plan for active follow-up for safety, including deaths,
>>> hospitalizations, and other serious or clinically significant
>>> adverse events, among individuals who receive the vaccine under an
>>> EUA, to inform ongoing benefit-risk determinations to support
>>> continuation of the EUA.
>>>
>>> FDA also expects manufacturers who receive an EUA to continue
>>> their clinical trials to obtain additional safety and
>>> effectiveness information and pursue licensure (approval).
>>>
>>> Post-authorization vaccine safety monitoring is a federal
>>> government responsibility shared primarily by FDA and the U.S.
>>> Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), along with other
>>> agencies involved in healthcare delivery. Post-authorization
>>> safety monitoring during the COVID-19 pandemic vaccination program
>>> will aim to continuously monitor the safety of COVID-19 vaccines
>>> to rapidly detect safety problems if they exist. There will be
>>> multiple, complementary systems in place with validated analytic
>>> methods that can rapidly detect signals for possible vaccine
>>> safety problems. The U.S. government has a well-established
>>> post-authorization/post-approval vaccine safety monitoring
>>> infrastructure that will be scaled up to meet the needs of a
>>> large-scale COVID-19 vaccination program. The U.S. government –
>>> in partnership with health systems, academic centers, and private
>>> sector partners – will use multiple existing vaccine safety
>>> monitoring systems to monitor COVID-19 vaccines in the
>>> post-authorization/approval period. Some of these systems are the
>>> Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), the Vaccine Safety
>>> Datalink (VSD), the Biologics Effectiveness and Safety (BEST)
>>> Initiative, and Medicare claims data.
>>
>> See a shrink. Say others have detected catastrophising and paranoid
>> thinking.
>>
>> 350 million people who have taken the vaccine are wrong but you and
>> a tiny group of deluded thinkers know the real truth? Yeah, right.
>>
>> If you don't want the vaccine, don't take it. It's your loss but no
>> one really cares.
>>
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>I never said I didn't want the vaccine. You are confused.
When is she ever not confused? This alleged woman seems to have a
whacko perspective on just about everything.
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