On 3/14/2021 10:07 AM, Pamela wrote:
> On 15:30 14 Mar 2021, Taxed and Spent said:
>
>> On 3/14/2021 8:18 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 07:59:09 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/14/2021 7:48 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 05:33:30 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You are missing the point - two points, actually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. These are EXPERIMENTAL vaccines, because to be fully
>>>>>> approved the
>> y
>>>>>> need YEARS of study.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope. You do realize that there are several types of Covid
>>>>> vaccines out there right now, yeah?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bad things sometime happen after a lot of time has elapsed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah and every single pharmaceutical and OTC drug is required
>>>>> to report adverse reactions to the FDA. This isn't just for new
>>>>> drugs, either.
>>>>>
>>>>> The more people who are taking a med, the more likely an
>>>>> adverse reaction, if inherent or wildly incidental, will show
>>>>> up. This is jus
>> t
>>>>> numbers, not woo-woo-new-med sort of thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did a study for a common brand of NSAID that had been on the
>>>>> market
>>
>>>>> for decades, and if any of the participants said they'd had so
>>>>> much a
>> s
>>>>> an uncomfortable hiccup they felt happened while taking it, my
>>>>> compan
>> y
>>>>> had to file that with the FDA.
>>>>>
>>>>> No system is foolproof, and millions of user and doses can show
>>>>> up anomalies that smaller, trial numbers might not reveal, but
>>>>> trying t
>> o
>>>>> scare folks off because these vaccines are "new" is pretty
>>>>> lame.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Being aware and cautious regarding EXPERIMENTAL vaccines
>>>>>> does not
>>
>>>>>> make one an anti-vaxxer.
>>>>>
>>>>> These are not "experimental", there should be no fear of them
>>>>> because
>>
>>>>> of such an false implications like yours, and so, yeah, you're
>>>>> an anti-vaxxer for taking that stance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, I make no personal comment about anything regarding
>>>>>> these
>>
>>>>>> vaccines or whether one should or should not take them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Um...yeah, you did.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Um, no I didn't.
>>>
>>> Yup...if it quacks and walks like a duck, it's a duck, hon.
>>> You're a dumb duck.
>>>>
>>>> They are experimental in that they have not been licensed. They
>>>> have been given Emergency Use Authorization. Studies are still
>>>> underway.
>>>
>>> They are not experimental. You can try to make use of that word
>>> for fun, but that does not make it applicable in this situation.
>>>
>>> https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/
>>> emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained
>>>>
>>>> Take the shot. I am not saying not to.
>>>
>>> Sorry, you are not intelligent enough to carry this on any
>>> longer.
>>>
>>
>>
>> What are the plans for continued monitoring of COVID-19 vaccines
>> authorized by FDA for emergency use?
>>
>> FDA expects vaccine manufacturers to include in their EUA requests
>> a plan for active follow-up for safety, including deaths,
>> hospitalizations, and other serious or clinically significant
>> adverse events, among individuals who receive the vaccine under an
>> EUA, to inform ongoing benefit-risk determinations to support
>> continuation of the EUA.
>>
>> FDA also expects manufacturers who receive an EUA to continue
>> their clinical trials to obtain additional safety and
>> effectiveness information and pursue licensure (approval).
>>
>> Post-authorization vaccine safety monitoring is a federal
>> government responsibility shared primarily by FDA and the U.S.
>> Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), along with other
>> agencies involved in healthcare delivery. Post-authorization
>> safety monitoring during the COVID-19 pandemic vaccination program
>> will aim to continuously monitor the safety of COVID-19 vaccines
>> to rapidly detect safety problems if they exist. There will be
>> multiple, complementary systems in place with validated analytic
>> methods that can rapidly detect signals for possible vaccine
>> safety problems. The U.S. government has a well-established
>> post-authorization/post-approval vaccine safety monitoring
>> infrastructure that will be scaled up to meet the needs of a
>> large-scale COVID-19 vaccination program. The U.S. government €“
>> in partnership with health systems, academic centers, and private
>> sector partners €“ will use multiple existing vaccine safety
>> monitoring systems to monitor COVID-19 vaccines in the
>> post-authorization/approval period. Some of these systems are the
>> Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), the Vaccine Safety
>> Datalink (VSD), the Biologics Effectiveness and Safety (BEST)
>> Initiative, and Medicare claims data.
>
> See a shrink. Say others have detected catastrophising and paranoid
> thinking.
>
> 350 million people who have taken the vaccine are wrong but you and
> a tiny group of deluded thinkers know the real truth? Yeah, right.
>
> If you don't want the vaccine, don't take it. It's your loss but no
> one really cares.
>


I never said I didn't want the vaccine. You are confused.