On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 2:24:09 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 3:32:46 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 3:38:02 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > > On 3/6/2021 9:46 AM, US Janet wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 04:22:16 -0600, Sqwertz >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On Fri, 05 Mar 2021 19:05:00 -0700, US Janet wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I bought a 2-piece set of non-stick pans by Gotham from Costco a
> > > >>> couple of weeks ago. Beautiful looking pans. The non-stick is
> > > >>> thrillling, plus non-stick exterior and non scratch. Super-duper for
> > > >>> eggs of any kind. Be careful you could easily make them zip right out
> > > >>> of the pan. It was $29 for a 10 inch and a 12 inch. Nicely weighted
> > > >>> pan, not heavy.
> > > >>> However. It is almost impossible to get anything to brown or crisp in
> > > >>> those pans. It's also difficult to turn stuff over. Pieces of food
> > > >>> just keep slipping away from attempts to flip anything.
> > > >>> My husband is happy because he doesn't have to spend a lot of time
> > > >>> trying to get gummy brown stuff off the bottoms of the pans. My old
> > > >>> non-stick are 20 years old and have become terrible at holding onto
> > > >>> meat proteins. I will probably have to go back to my cast iron for
> > > >>> anythng that needs browning.
> > > >>> I don't know if this problem applies to all of the new non-stick
> > > >>> surfaces,
> > > >>> My husband said he had heard about this issue on the TV.
> > > >>> Janet US
> > > >>
> > > >> I have an original Teflon pan from the 60's. You can tell it's
> > > >> quite different. It has 45 degree slopes to the 1" sides and I
> > > >> usually flip stuff in the pan with a shake-wrist-flip. Trying to do
> > > >> it with this pan is hillarous. There's nothing left in the pan
> > > >> 1/3rd of the way through the flip. It's all over the stove. And if
> > > >> I stir some, say, ground, it all exits the pan too. I just
> > > >> recently started using it again and it's fun. To a point
> > > >
> > > > So you have experienced the kind of pan I am talking about?
> > > > Janet US
> > > >
> > > I have some Gotham Steel stuff. It's OK if you don't overheat it.
> > > It's better than the plastic handled Green Pan items. By far, my
> > > favorite pans are two of these:
> > > https://www.amazon.com/Copper-Chef-D.../dp/B07N984J2S
> > >
> > > I'd never buy another non-stick. What I have will last until
> > > retirement, when we're "Going Mobile." When we settle down again,
> > > and I have to re-buy cookware, it will likely be stainless steel.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > --Bryan
> > > For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
> > > tested on laboratory animals.
> > That sounds pretty optimistic. Unfortunately, the ceramic pans don't seem to be very
> > durable.
> >
> That square Copper Chef one is performing pretty well. Something can be durable
> even if it's fragile. Plus, I have unused ones. I went on this thing to buy things when
> they were deeply discounted, up to enough years supply to last until retirement. If I
> overshoot, the rest goes to my son. When they had these
> https://www.amazon.com/Power-Multi-P.../dp/B07GPSDYXD
> 70% off a couple of years ago, I bought two, anticipating giving it to my son when
> he got his own place. He's moving out Thursday
> >
> > Mostly, they seem to be very good at not killing any birds that might be in
> > your house. Good luck in going mobile. My you roam far and wide and free.
> 200 Motels. Camping in State and National Parks in a tent, and in some
> areas w/o facilities that don't cost to tent camp. Some AirBnBs. An
> occasional fancy hotel when we get a super deal--like Hotwire Hot Deals.
> We're eventually buying my son's hybrid Sonata for our touring car. The
> rental income from our two paid off houses would more than pay for the
> types of lodging we'd want to stay in anyway.
>
> The only luck involved in "going mobile" is our health, and that's not really
> different than if we lived in one place. When we do settle down, Jill's neck
> of the woods is pretty appealing, specifically Savannah, Georgia, though I
> could see living most of the year in Ponce, PR, and the bad part of hurricane
> season elsewhere, maybe San José, Costa Rica, two cities that have
> excellent health care facilities.
>
> --Bryan

I saw a promo for the movie "Nomadland." The voice-over says that Americans are like the early pioneers of the American West. They feel the need to keep moving. I have no idea if that's true or not. OTOH, I've always considered my brother-in-laws and my sister-in-law to be wild rovers. They've crossed America many times. To them, it's as casual a trip as me going to the North Shore of Oahu.
The most depressing part of the movie is working at Amazon.com. It eats up and spits out seasonal workers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ4o4jwSaHk