On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 7:49:19 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 11:44:29 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 11:37:34 PM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 5:05:52 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > > White Castle was cooking up burgers using a method that maximized
> > > > umami long before umami became well known. That was a lucky break
> > > > for them. OTOH, umami is still not well known in the West.
> > > Umami is well known in the West. We just didn't have a word for it,
> > > except perhaps "savoriness".
> > >
> > > We principally get umami from meat, since we have plenty of it,
> > > rather than seaweed.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > Meat, by itself, is not rich in umami. Teriyaki beef is because it has added shoyu. A dish like
> > spicy pork eggplant is umami rich because it has soy sauce, fermented black beans, oyster
> > sauce, and MSG. Bacon and ham is full of umami because they're fermented/cured products.
> > A Denver omelette is an American dish full of umami because it contains ham, cheese, and
> > onions. A White Castle slider is high in umami. Most burgers aren't - unless they have cheese
> > on it.
> Any browned meat is rich in umami. Why do you think steaks are so popular?
>
> Cindy Hamilton

A fried burger is not rich in umami. A burger steamed on onions is. Why do you think White Castle burgers are so popular?