On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:18:05 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Sheldon Martin wrote:
> > On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 01:33:29 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 7:33:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> >>> On 1/27/2021 5:03 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 11:14:45 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
> >>>>> How do you prepare corned beef for yourself? On the top of the stove
> >>>>> in a pot with water and vegetables? In the oven with a tightly closed
> >>>>> pot?
> >>>>
> >>>> Both of those methods are braising. Roasting would be at temperatures
> >>>> over 400 F with no cover. Not suitable for corned beef.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd braise it in the oven. I find the all-round heat of the oven produces
> >>>> a better braise than the bottom-up heat of the stovetop.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>>>
> >>> I've had it prepared in the oven once. When I was a teenager my mother
> >>> decided to roast the corned beef brisket one year (around St. Patricks
> >>> Day). I do not recall the oven temp but I'm sure it wasn't 400F and
> >>> with no cover.
> >>
> >> Then it was baked, not roasted.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > At a Kosher Deli corned beef is prepared as I described, simmered to
> > remove the cure. At a Kosher Deli corned beef and pastrami were/are
> > kept hot for service on a steam table. For St. Paddy's Day the Micks
> > Braise Corned beef as I described and keep it warm on a steam table or
> > in a low oven... the Micks don't serve pastrami. Pastrami is smoked
> > corned beef... the Micks considered burning wood just for smoke was a
> > frivorlous waste of fuel... they didn't realize that the smoke was
> > also an excellent preservative.
> >
> > The Micks didn't know from corned beef until they arrived in America
> > where they settled in poor Jewish neighborhoods (crowded slums), they
> > copied their poor Jewish neighbors and ate corned beef... most every
> > cut of beef can be corned, not just brisket.
> >
> > Corned beef was poor people's food, it was preserved with salt, just
> > like the Jews preserved herring, with salt. Not all that long ago lox
> > was poor people's food too, cured salmon, salt is cheap. Just like
> > the poor Italians preserved Cod fish by salting and drying. In the
> > large American cities the Jews, Micks, and Italians lived close
> > together, their life styles became very similar. Over the centurys
> > people devised many ways to preserve food without refrigeration,
> > usually dehydrated and cured/salted. Most of the world's people
> > preserved fruit by fermentation (wine). It's not by accident that
> > peoples the world over imitated the Jewish dietary laws, peoples
> > wanted to survive so they imitated the best survivalists.
> >
> Thank gawd for jewish delis Popeye.

You do realize that if he really was Popeye, that he'd eat some
canned spinach and give you an ass kickin' you'd never forget?

--Bryan