On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 01:01:45 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 1:46:45 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> > On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 1:52:33 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > > "KenK" > wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> > > > I've done some experimenting with my old bread machine. I used
>> > > > all-purpose flour and active dry yeast. The loaf was very small,
>> > > > hard and lumpy. I tried again with bread flour amd bread mahine
>> > > > yeast. Nice large tasty loaves.
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm surprised that the flour and yeast made that much difference.
>> > > >
>> > > > I last used the machine many years ago and I thought I had
>> > > > successfully used all-purpose flour and regular yeast then. Maybe
>> > > > flour and yeast have changed since then?
>> > >
>> > > I don't think the yeast has changed, unless you used a different
>> > > type. Flour can vary depending on where you live and the time of
>> > > year. I've been told that the AP flour that I get here is akin to
>> > > bread flour, no matter the time of year.
>> > >
>> > > I never had any luck with my bread machine, but I was using it for
>> > > gluten free bread. It was also a poor design in that it baked the
>> > > paddle into the bread so there was no way to get a decent slice of
>> > > bread. You could pull off a chunk though.
>> >
>> > Bread machines aren't programmed for gluten free. As far as the
>> > paddle goes, after the final knead, dig it out of the dough.
>>
>> Actually some are and some are truely programmable so you can make your
>> own settings and save them.
>>
>> Most that say 'programmable' are just 'you can set a time delay' but
>> others go way further.
>
>I've never seen a real, programmable machine but I've got a machine that has 17 programs. Most of them are not that useful although I suppose if someone was really into bread, it might be. Oddly enough, my machine does have a setting for non-gluten baking. I don't know how that works but I can find out.
>
>My bread machine is a real beauty. It's so shiny and sleek! It's pretty much the same as this one except that it doesn't have 25 settings and a fly in the machine. My guess is that's the same fly that made an appearance in the debate.

>https://www.amazon.com/MOOSOO-Stainl.../dp/B088YQCV2N

Lol, that's a bit sloppy of them. At least Pence was live.