On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 9:37:26 AM UTC-10, GM wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 6:21:49 PM UTC-10, Usenet Support Personnel wrote:
> > > This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the reorganization of
> > > the unmoderated newsgroup, rec.food.cooking.
> > >
> > > This RFD is being posted to news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
> > > rec.food.cooking, rec.food.drink, rec.food.historic, rec.food.recipes,
> > > rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.veg and rec.food.veg.cooking, with followups
> > > set to news.groups. All discussion regarding this proposal should take
> > > place in news.groups.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rationale: Rec.food.cooking has been a high-volume newsgroup for several
> > > years, and the subject of splitting has been brought up with a fair amount
> > > of regularity. Traditionally, rec.food.cooking has been an amazingly civil,
> > > calm and flame-free newsgroup, so a split never seemed to be justified.
> > >
> > > However, in recent weeks the noise level and number of inappropriate posts
> > > has skyrocketed, and polite pointers to the FAQs (which usually did the
> > > trick before) now go ignored or become targets for flames. I feel that
> > > splitting rec.food.cooking will help bring back the focus that it once had.
> > >
> > >
> > > Proposal: rec.food.cooking be split into 5 unmoderated groups:
> > >
> > > rec.food.cooking.misc
> > > rec.food.cooking.cookware
> > > rec.food.cooking.recipes
> > > rec.food.cooking.books
> > > rec.food.cooking.discuss
> > >
> > > Charters:
> > >
> > > rec.food.cooking.misc (unmoderated)
> > > What rfc used to be and should be. For general cooking discussion. This
> > > newsgroup will replace rec.food.cooking.
> > >
> > > rec.food.cooking.cookware (unmoderated)
> > > Bread machines, microwaves, crockpots, knives, cutting boards, glass-top
> > > stoves, barbecues, cast iron, woks, Calphalon, aluminum, dehydrators,
> > > pasta makers, rice cookers, etc.
> > >
> > > rec.food.cooking.recipes (unmoderated)
> > > Recipes and requests. Before you say that this is redundant with
> > > rec.food.recipes, from moderating rec.food.recipes, I've discovered
> > > that crossposting between rec.food.cooking and rec.food.recipes is
> > > virtually non-existent. Recipe management software discussion should
> > > go in here as well.
> > >
> > > rec.food.cooking.books (unmoderated)
> > > Cookbooks, cookbook authors, tv shows.
> > >
> > > rec.food.cooking.discuss (unmoderated)
> > > For all the spam and tripe that currently plagues the group. For flames,
> > > rumors, controversial topics (such as food poisoning), the $250 cookie,
> > > and those threads that bear marginal relevance that seem to go on forever
> > > like, "What did you have for dinner last night?" "What is your favourite
> > > fast food restaurant?" "What is your least favourite fast food
> > > restaurant?" Etc, etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > Discussion will run for a minimum of 21 days. The newsgroups in this
> > > proposal are subject to change, and if major changes are necessary, the
> > > discussion period may be extended an additional 7 days.
> > >
> > > A Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted after the end of the discussion
> > > period. The vote will be run by a neutral third party.
> > >
> > > This RFD attempts to fully comply with Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines
> > > set in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup". Please refer to this
> > > document if you have questions about the process.
> >
> > What you guys have failed to realize is that in the old days, one could call for a Request For Discussion and people would discuss the topic. These days, no discussion is possible. All you're going to get is wolves tearing into a baby lambkin to get some blood and meat.
> >
> > Google Groups didn't change Usenet. It was the availability of cheap and fast access to networks. These days, any clown with a chip on their shoulder and an ancient computer can post to Usenet. These days, talk is dirt cheap.
> >
> > If you want to try to get back to the 1990's, start by restricting Usenet access to college grads affiliated with educational, governmental, and research institutions and kick out the eternal September rif-raf. Usenet didn't change, the people changed.
>
>
> Kinda reminds of peeps talking about how "exclusive" flying was back in the Good Olde Daze...they lament that air travel became cheap and any trashy person could afford to fly...
>
> The days of 40 - inch seat pitch, fawning stewardesses, full hot meals and pax dressing their Sunday best to fly in coach is over, so is the "exclusivity" of Usenet...now any unwashed mope with a Goog account can access...
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

Today's Usenet of flame wars, race-baiting, hate-mongering, commie trolling, and good old fashioned playground gossip, is perfectly suited for Google Groups. Using an archaic newsreader ain't gonna save nothing.