> > > > > > How is posting an electronic massage in google groups
> contributing
> > > > > > to death? I'm not looking for an argument, I'm just curious.
> > > > > > - Matt
> > > > > =======================
> > > > > Power generation and distribution cause millions upon millions
> of
> animals
> > > > > deaths in the US every year.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, you really should annotate your snipping of poats.
> Otherwise, we
> > > > > might think you are dishonestly trying to change the discussion.
> i'm
> sure
> > > > > you're not really trying to be dishonest, are you?
> > > >
> > > > Uhh, okay? So, you are causing this suffering too buy posting.
> > > > What is your diet anyways? You say "your meat" causes less death.
> > > > So, when you have a dinner guest do you say something like -- Hey
> my
> > > > diet doesn't cause death...here's a slab of organic ribbs?
> Organicly
> > > > Grown animals still suffer... and you eat veggies...which
> "Purposely
> > > > Causes death".
> > > =====================
> > > No, that's the difference fool, I don't claim that my diet is
> somehow
> > > morally superior to any body elses. that is what vegans do.
> >
> > You know, diet is a personal thing no matter if you're thin, fat,
> > carnivore, vegetarian, or vegan. And here you are attacking people's
> > personal preferences. It's really none of your business.
> ======================
> No, i'm not jimmy-boy. Read what I have said many, many times. I care not
> a bit what you eat. I'm discussing the ignorance behind the claimed beliefs
> that usenet vegans make about their choices. Too bad for you all you have
> are thses strawmen that keep getting knocked down.
>
>
> Now, go have that nice blood-drenched dinner, hypocrite...

You don't care what we eat. I don't care what you eat.
>
>
> >
> > > > No, I'm not trying to be dishonest...I'm just trying to come to
> a
> > > > group where vegans can talk...I didn't know I was going to be
> attacked
> > > > by you.
> > > ===============
> > > You're not being attacked. You're being educated. You're don't
> like having
> > > your religion challenged, but the truth is that you are
> > delusional...
> >
> > You do NOT educate people, you attack them. You call people names, you
> > antagonize, you intimidate, and you attack people. You are also stupid
> > and should not be trying to teach anybody anything.
> ======================
> Yes, I am fool. The fact that you, nor anyone else here has ever been able
> to refute what I says tells all. You haven't even tried to refute it, all
> *you've* done is attck the messenger, hypocrite.

Why are you trying to educate us? I don't care what you do...why do
you care what I do. You are stereotyping everyone. Vegans have one
rule Eat No Meat...yeah, some do it 'cause they don't like meat
though. We don't all have the same motives...we are individuals.

> >
> > > > Like I said before, 100% Veganism is impossible...but we can
> try...
> > > ==================
> > > That's the point. You aren't trying. Afterall, here you are on
> usenet,
> > > killer. All you have is a simple rule for your simple mind, 'eat
> no meat.'
> > > Doesn't 'save' any animals at all, and quite possibly causes even
> more. You
> > > haven't even researched the differences in the veggies that you do
> eat in
> > > regards to their contribution to animal death and suffering, much
> less made
> > > any real comparisions with meat.
> >
> > No, you operate from a position of ignorance. You have no proof that
> > "eating no meat" causes more animal deaths than eating meat. If you
> > can't back up your claims with CREDIBLE facts and numbers then you
> > should just shut up.
> ======================
> Yes, I have, fool. many times. And to tweak your strawman again, all I've
> claimed that any diet free of meat does not automaically mean fewer animals
> die than from any diet that icludes meat. You cannot refute it, and will
> never try, killer.

Yes, we know this. You've told us millions of times. It doesn't
automatically cause less death. It doesn't automatically cause more
death. It just makes since that if you don't want to kill animals the
first step is to stop eating them...that way you're only causing death
in the crops instead of both the in the crops and on the field. And
once again, some are vegans for Health Reasons, only meat and meat by
products contain cholesterol. My arteries can't get clogged up with
cholesterol if I'm not eating any.
I'm not going around saying "Hey I don't contribute to death." Who
cares what I eat...besides me.

>
>
>
> >
> > > > I don't think you're trying to convince us that eating meat is
> okay,
> > > > I think you're trying to convince yourself.
> > > =================
> > > I don't need convenincing, fool, and I'm not trying to tell any body
> what
> > > they must eat. All I do is point out the ignorance, lys, and
> delusions of
> > > vegans that claim that they cause no/fewer/less animals to die just
> because
> > > of what they eat.
> >
> > Why should anyone believe you when you have no credibility? This is
> > all just a stupid exercise in beating each other over the head with
> > opinions. Don't you have anything better to do?
> =====================
> I have facts on my side, fool. Too bad all you have are ignorance and
> stupidity.

We all have facts, that doesn't mean You nor me is going to
change...You cause death, I cause death. There are healthy omnivores,
there are unhealthy vegans. I think you should know people's personal
motives, rather stereotype us as one big communistic speaker.
>
>
> >
> > > > Thanks for your concern about MY life choices, oh and I saw the
> > > > puctures of you smoking...so I guess I can't realy take health
> tips
> > > > from you.
> > > ==========================
> > > Really? That's news to me about smoking. You must be delusional
> now too,
> > > eh hypocrite? Besides, when did I give any health tips that you
> need to
> > > follow, killer?
> >
> > Delusional? Hypocrite? Killer? And you claim to be educating
> > people???!!
> =====================
> Nice dodge there, killer.

Oh, okay, that wasn't you...sorry. I can admit when I'm wrong. I
don't feel I'm wrong for being a vegan though...I don't feel your
wrong for your ideas...we all are into our own thing.

>
> >
> > > Now, go have that nice blood-drenched breakfast, hypocrite.
> >
> > You're nothing but a lowly troll, and not a very good one at that.
> ====================
> No, you're the only one that fits the troll, you never add anything to the
> real discussion, all you do is spew your hatred and ignorance. Now, for
> once, try to defend your vegan idiocy, or refute what I have said. You
> can't, and you wont even try, killer.
>
>
> Now, go have that nice blood-drenched dinner, hypocrite...
>
See, maybe if you were a little more professional people would take
you more seriously.

Can't we all just get along.

- Matt