patriarch wrote:


> And you could take the old one in with you in a bag, and say "I need
> to replace this, cheaply, please."
>
> Works best with a local, 'experienced' hardware store. Don't waste
> your time with the average Home Depot or Lowe's.


Around here, that's True Value (Handyman). They have a service counter
with the wise old owls back in the corner.



Brian