zxcvbob wrote:

> Bob (this one) wrote:
>
>> Kajikit wrote:
>>
>>> Sam had something important to tell us on 9 Sep 2004 09:39:24 -0700:
>>>
>>>> hi there,
>>>>
>>>> we ate yesterday at an 'italian' resturant ordering spaghetti
>>>> bolognese.
>>>>
>>>> the plate was of macaroni spirals mixed about in bolognese sauce.
>>>>
>>>> it did not resemble my preconceptional idea that spaghetti bolognese
>>>> is a dish of cooked spaghetti or other long thin pasta with bologese
>>>> sauce neatly poured on the top.
>>>>
>>>> the waiter and the owners said that macaroni is the same as spagetti.
>>>> as i am not italian i felt i wasnt in a position to argue with people
>>>> who have been eating these dishes since their childhood.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe some here could enlighten me, can you use macaroni spirals and
>>>> still call it spaghetti bologese? would you serve it that way in your
>>>> resturant?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think I'd serve it in a restaurant because people EXPECT
>>> traditional spaghetti, but really all egg pasta is the same. When I
>>> cook spaghetti at home I prefer spirals or shells because they hold
>>> the sauce better and you don't have to chase it around the plate or
>>> struggle to wrap it on the fork. The restaurant probably ran out of
>>> spaghetti and substituted what they had on hand...
>>
>>
>>
>> I hardly know where to start...
>>
>> Spaghetti means "little strings" and is a specific shape. It's not the
>> generic name for pasta (which *is* the generic name).
>>
>> Spaghetti isn't egg pasta. Virtually never will you find egg pasta in
>> the shape of spaghetti.
>>
>> Spirals (whatever that shape really is) and shells are names of other
>> pastas, not other spaghetti.
>>
>> Bolognese sauce isn't served with spaghetti in the traditional service.
>>
>> OP and reply are both in need of a remedial read about pasta.
>>
>> Pastorio
>>
> You completely missed the OP's point that he ordered spaghetti in a
> restaurant, was served rotelli, and when he asked about it the waiter
> and the manager said, "Bhah, what difference does it make, it's all pasta"

Um, I wasn't replying to the OP. I was replying to the simpleton who
posted that middle note, and only in passing at the end to the OP.

> They should have called it "rotelle bolognese", or "pasta bolognese",
> but should not have called it spaghetti on the menu and then served a
> different noodle, and argued with the customer about it. They could
> have said they were out of spaghetti and substituted rotelli because it
> is nicer with that sauce. Or something. But not "it's all the same".

I agree with this. The bastids...

Pastorio