On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 5:04:47 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-12-07 11:10 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 12/7/2018 5:18 AM, Fruitiest of Fruitcakes wrote:
>
> >> I do realise that many restaurant customers can be nothing but a pain and
> >> make unreasonable demands on the staff. Some appear to be complaining
> >> on a
> >> regular basis merely in order to try and get free meals; but we are
> >> not all
> >> like that.
> >>
> >>
> > In the US, may places pay a meager wage and tipping is minimal.Â* I'm
> > talking about a coffee shop type place where you go to a counter for
> > service.Â* It is OK not to tip there but many will leave the change..
>
> I have to wonder about tipping for counter service. It is not at all
> like table service. They aren't coming to take your order and delivering
> your food and beverages. When they put a tip jar out people feel that
> they should be tipping, but they would not expect to have to tip at a
> convenience store, the dry cleaners, the self service gas stations......
>
>
>
> > Sit down restaurants are all sub minimum wage for servers and tipping is
> > expected.Â* A tip of 15% to 20% is normal and expected for decent
> > service.Â* Staff can make a good living in the right places.Â* To not tip
> > at least a minimal amount for acceptable service would be ignorant.Â* You
> > should not go to a restaurant knowing a tip is part of the server's wage.
>
>
> Where did this 20% thing happen? It used to be 15% for good service, and
> that does not include the tax. You are already paying a percentage with
> the tax and should not have to pay a tip on the tax as well. I have
> heard waiters suggest that 20% is more appropriate because prices have
> gone up. If prices are higher that same 15% translates to a bigger tip.
>
> FWIW.... there are minimum wages for servers here. It is lower for those
> serving alcohol, but it currently $12.20 /hr here.

I lunch weekly at a restaurant. I tip 30-40%. The tab is so small it
scarcely is more than 15-20%. I get treated like royalty when I go
there.

Cindy Hamilton