On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:13:50 +1100, Brice >
wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 07:48:33 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 10:51:57 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>>On 11/14/2018 5:41 AM, Brice wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, animal welfare can be a legitimate reason - but how far does
>>>>> that extend, or more to the point - where does it stop and
>>>>> discrimination/persecution of living creatures begin? Do vegans also
>>>>> refuse vaccinations or anti venom, for example?
>>>>
>>>> I hope not. It's just that for every dairy cow a bull is killed and
>>>> for every egg laying hen a rooster's killed. Plus the hen and the cow
>>>> are killed when they're no longer productive enough. Plus what
>>>> conditions are they kept in? Those are things why I can understand
>>>> vegans.
>>>>
>>>
>>>The ethics are certainly controversial. The bull and rooster killed
>>>should not be wasted. No animal should be kept in poor conditions.
>>>Yes, it will probably raise prices a bit too. Nor should we destroy the
>>>rain forests to raise cattle for the sake of cheap hamburgers.
>>
>>Meat, eggs and dairy can certainly be raised humanely. But most people
>>won't pay for it.
>
>True. Sometimes I see people here in rfc go on about how they can get
>chicken wings for only $.75 per lbs or something. They don't see or
>care what the hidden cost for the animals is.

Yes, it's scary how cheap it can be. When it's that cheap you just
know it's neither humane or good quality.