On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 07:48:33 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 10:51:57 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 11/14/2018 5:41 AM, Brice wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure, animal welfare can be a legitimate reason - but how far does
>>>> that extend, or more to the point - where does it stop and
>>>> discrimination/persecution of living creatures begin? Do vegans also
>>>> refuse vaccinations or anti venom, for example?
>>>
>>> I hope not. It's just that for every dairy cow a bull is killed and
>>> for every egg laying hen a rooster's killed. Plus the hen and the cow
>>> are killed when they're no longer productive enough. Plus what
>>> conditions are they kept in? Those are things why I can understand
>>> vegans.
>>>
>>
>>The ethics are certainly controversial. The bull and rooster killed
>>should not be wasted. No animal should be kept in poor conditions.
>>Yes, it will probably raise prices a bit too. Nor should we destroy the
>>rain forests to raise cattle for the sake of cheap hamburgers.
>
>Meat, eggs and dairy can certainly be raised humanely. But most people
>won't pay for it.

True. Sometimes I see people here in rfc go on about how they can get
chicken wings for only $.75 per lbs or something. They don't see or
care what the hidden cost for the animals is.