On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 12:29:27 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-10-08 11:44 AM, cshenk wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-10-08 7:15 AM, wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 17:30:04 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>
>>>>> I will stand by my personal experience growing up in Canada that
>>>>> our holiday is very strongly linked to the Pilgrims. I asked my
>>>>> wife about it this after noon. She is into Thanksgiving in a big
>>>>> way, just like her mother, who was proud of her Loyalist roots.
>>>>> She mentioned that when she switched to a high Anglican church a
>>>>> few years ago she was a little disappointed that they did not do
>>>>> anything special for Thanksgiving and realized it was because
>>>>> they had done they Harvest Home thing the week before.
>>>>
>>>> Ball is in your court, YOU prove to me that the Canadian
>>>> Thanksgiving has even a little to do with the Pilgrim Fathers - I
>>>> can't imagine why you want to associate it with some religious
>>>> nutters anyway!
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh yeah. I aced that serve and you failed to return it. As I
>>> explained to you... twice.... I grew up here and I know the tradition
>>> that we were raised with. For some reason, you are more inclined to
>>> go with an author with the last name of Ali to argue about Canadian
>>> culture. While you came to the UK, many of us have roots in the
>>> American colonies and have ancestors who came here as Loyalists. How
>>> typical of you to try to bolster your lame argument with a slur
>>> against the people credited with organizing the first Thanksgiving.
>>> The fact remains that for those of us who were born and raised in
>>> this country, Canadian Thanksgiving is essentially the same
>>> celebration as the American Thanksgiving, sharing the same roots and
>>> the same traditional foods, but held on different dates.
>>
>> For reason. The holiday (such as observed) was a feast of the harvest.
>> It was celebrated in what is NOW 2 countries but predates that. Same
>> ancestors, we just split ways later.
>>
>> Pilgrims were just one set that came over.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving
>>
>> The fact is both North and South North Americans celebrated it but as a
>> harvest issue, the southerly folks did it later because the final
>> harvest was later.
>>
>> It's not rocket science here so not sure why the debate?
>>
>
>
>Someone who did not grow up here thinks this is not so, and she has
>attempted to bolster her argument citing an article by an author with
>the surname Ali, which would lead me to suspect that she was not raised
>with the family and cultural traditions that I do. I don't think that
>anyone is arguing that there were not rooted in the religious harvest
>home and other harvest celebrations, or that there have been a number of
>events of giving thanks. It would appear that some people will argue
>against even the most obvious connections. As a person who was born in
>this country and raised with the Thanksgiving tradition and married to a
>woman with a similar background, I can attest to having celebrated the
>holiday with references to the Pilgrims. Now we both have the same
>celebration with the same basic theme, getting family and friends
>together for feast of the same foods.... roast turkey,stuffing,
>cranberries, gravy, mashed potatoes, squash, pumpkin pie, apple pie. I
>guess perhaps the similarities are too subtle for some people.

Racist again! Did you read the wiki link Carole put up? Not written
by anybody with the dreaded name of Ali, but saying the same thing.
Linked to a church festival. Only the US Thanksgiving has any mention
of PFs.

I am sad for Canada that you were born here, if I had known that 52
years ago, maybe I would not have become a Canadian. Racist and
misogynist, you can't be beaten can you?