Catching up with my mail........

1. Cabernet Sauvignon
2. Riesling
3. Syrah
4.Nebbiolo
5.Zinfandel
6. Pinot Noir(#1 or 2 if its inspired)
7.Chardonnay
8.Merlot
9.Sangiovese
10 Grenache
11 Chenin Blanc
12 Muscat

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Joe "Beppe" Rosenberg
"Ian Hoare" > wrote in message
...
> Salut/Hi Vino,
>
> le/on Tue, 31 Aug 2004 00:00:27 GMT, tu disais/you said:-
>
> >On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:01:20 GMT, Leo Bueno
> > wrote:
>
> >>countries in a wide variety of climates. The primary species is Vitis
> >>vinifera and of the thousands of cultivars only around 30 are
> >>regularly cultivated and of these only a dozen or so are considered to
> >>be premium.
>
> Really? "are considered" begs several questions.
>
> 1 Why 12?
> 2 By whom?
> 3 on what criteria?
>
>
> >Personally, I find this whole exercise (and the related one on
> >regions) less than useless.
>
> Yup, I agree. And I'm increasingly getting the feeling that Leo is using
us
> to do all his research for his wine class. This is smelling increasingly
> like Mario Desiderio (not suggestying they're one and the same, by the
way)
>
> For me "premium" has quality implications, and any list which includes
Pinot
> Gris and not Pinot Noir has to belong to cloud cuckooland.
>
> For what it's worth, (and trying NOT to be either country or region
biased)
> and in no particular order, would you go along with this?
>
> 6 whites
>
> Riesling
> Chardonnay
> Sauvignon Blanc/Gris
> Sémillon or else Pinot Gris
> Chenin Blanc
> Gruner Veltliner
>
> 6 reds
>
> Pinot Noir,
> Cabernet Sauvignon
> Merlot
> Syrah/Shiraz
> Sangiovese
> Tempranilla
>
> which goes to show how ridiculous the exercise is, as it leaves out many
> very great wines worldwide. How can one leave out:-
>
> Tannat. Ch Montus Prestige (frequently highly placed against Bdx in
> competitions) and many good wines from Uruguay)
>
> Malbec - Wines from Cahors, component in Bdx, Argentina
>
> Zinfandel - probably the mst typical California grape
>
> Gewurztraminer, excellent in Alsace (especially for difficult foods) and
> elsewhere.
>
> Viognier, real class whites
>
> Furmint for what are amongst the worlds best sweet wines.
>
> Nope. Silly exercise.
>
> --
> All the Best
> Ian Hoare
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