On Monday, December 11, 2017 at 7:46:07 PM UTC-5, Golden One wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 09:48:34 -0700, Casa del Sol naciente
> > wrote:
>
> >On 12/7/2017 4:15 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 5:02:13 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 6:14:49 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 10:55:29 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Humans are tribal. It's in our nature to fight with other tribes.
> >>>> Civilization has, to a certain extent, sublimated that urge into
> >>>> less destructive expressions, like sports team rivalries.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Of course, and such has been the case from way back in history including the infamous Roman Coliseum. Even their bloody sports were substitutes for war. War itself could be a substitute for all out slaughter. Maybe one day if things get bad enough, the leaders of all the nations of earth will get together and decide to drag out the big bombs and put an end to everything. Then the cockroaches and other unseen forms of life can take over. Nothing can kill life. It's scary. I wouldn't be so worried about death if I knew it were absolutely permanent. But I fear that when we die we become some giant ball of need - hunger, yearning to breathe, to move, to crawl into something, anything, to assuage the insatiable urge to live with which we are all saddled from day number one.
> >>>
> >>> Do you agree or disagree? Oh really? So you want to fight about it, eh?
> >>>
> >>> TJ
> >>
> >> The only part I disagree with is not subject to proof. Thus, there is no
> >> point debating what happens after death.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >
> >Proof you say?
> >
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/26/bo...of-heaven.html
> >
> >His messages to those who deal with dying is one of relief. €œOur spirit
> >is not dependent on the brain or body,€� he said. €œIt is eternal, and no
> >one has one sentence worth of hard evidence that it isnt.€�
>
> That is a very passive agressive statement, especially the final
> sentence.
>
> He knows exactly what he is saying when he states that there is no
> evidence to prove a negative. Duh!
>
> His delusions are not proof of anything.
>
> JB


Proof is worthless. Theory is more important than fact as in reality many things that are not facts are passed of as such. People who deal exclusively in proof or fact are people without imagination, or people who love to debate. I don't like to debate. I say what I feel and that's the end of it.. I don't care if others lambaste me for it, but I'm not going to waste energy arguing facts in a world of absolute uncertainty. And dats a fact, Jack.

TJ