Alan Connor wrote:

> Mark Preston wrote:
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>>As always with these type of post, the original poster, posts and
>>flees. That leaves the rest of us (actually interested) posters with
>>nothing to do but to comment within our "own" group.
>>
>>Humbug to these "cowards" that post and run; they won't actually
>>defend their ideas there "right" without question. (Politically
>>correct thought)
>>
>>I am posting my usual response to the "vegan" who started this thread.
>>The last time I posted this, a gang of vegans wrote to Google asking
>>to have me barred from posting further. I had to promise them I would
>>not make offending posts. Those of you here, who have read the first
>>post in the thread, please read mine, and see who's more "correct".
>>
>>A Book of Food
>>by Morton P. Shand
>>(NY : Knopf, 1928)
>>
>> Sentimental Vegetarianism (page 160)
>>
>>The Sentimental Vegetarians are the most numerous and illogical of the
>>different sects of dietetic vegetarians, quasi-vegetarians,
>>frutarians,
>>nutarians and the raw vegetable nourishment stalwarts. If the
>>pretensions of the sentimental vegetarians are to be taken seriously,
>>not only must humanity forgo all animal foods, including milk and
>>eggs, from ethical motives, but true to the essentially democratic
>>principal of "sois mon frere, ou je te tu," every single race of
>>mankind should be constrained -- by force of arms failing peaceful
>>persuasion, since the offence is greater in the eating than in the
>>killing -- to abstain from meat nourishment for all eternity.
>>
>>After making the world safe for vegetarianism, the next step would be
>>the organization of armed, vegetarianized, humanity (or vegetarianized
>>armed humanity - it does not matter which, but propagandists would
>>declare there was a world of difference) to prevent non-carnivorous
>>animals being devoured by carnivorous, and to put a stop to the
>>outrage
>>of carnivorous animals preying on each other.
>>
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>
> There isn't anything wrong with humanely killing animals that have had
> a decent life and eating them in ORDINARY TIMES.
>
> These are not ORDINARY TIMES.
>
> The world is radically over-populated and has been seriously harmed by
> industry. Fresh water and arable land become more scarce every year.
>
> Eating animal products is many, many times more environmentally destructive
> than eating plant products, all other things being equal and in most cases.
>
> Just to grow the plants to feed the animals needed to provide the average
> American with their food, it takes about 3 and 1/2 acres of land. The same
> amount of calories and protein can be produced on 1/10 acre of plants and
> consumed directly.
>
> The freshwater requirements for the animal product consumer are staggeringly
> higher than those of a plant product consumer, and fresh water shortages
> are becoming more widespread and persistent every year.

Yadda yadda...

Talk to your DNA and see if it agrees.

Pastorio