On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 11:08:32 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 8/13/2016 9:42 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 9:47:42 AM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 8/13/2016 8:39 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 7:22:46 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> This is America. We barely care about drunk driving, as evinced by
>>>>>> our lenient drunk-driving laws.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lenient? Don't get caught DUI in Virginia.
>>>>
>>>> Virginia:
>>>>
>>>> Virginia categorizes a first DUI offense as a class 1 misdemeanor and imposes a fine ranginging from $250 to $2,500. The law also imposes a one-year license suspension. The punishment increases if you were arrested with a BAC of 0.15% or higher in which case your sentence may include a minimum five-day jail sentence..
>>>>
>>>> Sweden:
>>>>
>>>> Surpassing the limit is a serious offence, fined with €500. Driving with an alcohol rate over 0.12% is a crime (up to 6 months imprisonment and license suspension up to 4 years). Sweden: 0.02% (up to 6 months imprisonment), 0.10% (imprisonment, maximum 2 years).
>>>
>>> What about Cananda? That's where lucretia lives. Just because some
>>> country has draconian laws doesn't mean ours are bad.
>>
>> Canada's laws seem only slightly stiffer than ours.
>>
>There are two sets of laws here. Driving over .08 is a criminal and
>therefore a Federal offence and if no injuries are involved, the
>penalties are set out he
>http://tiny.cc/1xuxdy
>
>However, some Provinces have also added administrative penalties for
>over .05 (they are not allowed to pass their own criminal laws as they
>are federal jurisdiction). In Alberta the following are added:
> Implemented July 1, 2012
>For drivers with blood alcohol over .08:
>
> Criminal charge for BAC over .08, impaired by drugs or alcohol or
>refusal to provide requested sample(s).
> Immediate licence suspension which is sustained until criminal
>charge is resolved.
> 1st charge: sustained licence suspension and 3-day vehicle seizure,
>“Planning Ahead” course.
> 2nd charge: sustained licence suspension, 7- day vehicle seizure,
>“Impact” course.
> 3rd charge: sustained licence suspension, 7-day vehicle seizure,
>“Impact” course.
> Mandatory ignition interlock after criminal conviction – 1 year for
>1st conviction; 3 years for 2nd conviction; 5 years for 3rd conviction.
>
>Implemented September 1, 2012
>For drivers with Blood Alcohol .05 to .08:
>
> 1st offence - Immediate 3-day licence suspension and 3-day vehicle
>seizure.
> 2nd offence - Immediate 15-day licence suspension, 7-day vehicle
>seizure, “Planning Ahead” course.
> 3rd offence - Immediate 30-day licence suspension, 7-day vehicle
>seizure, “Impact” course.
>
>Implemented July 1, 2012
>For new (GDL) drivers with blood alcohol over .00
>
> GDL driver found with any blood alcohol - Immediate 30-day licence
>suspension and 7-day vehicle seizure
>
I don't take chances, happily I have several non-drinking friends for
when I am out and for family do's my eldest grandson lives nearby and
they always pick me up. I wouldn't take the chance anyway, have seen
what it can do.

We came here nearly 50 years ago now and I am very happy that there is
a total attitude change on that score. People used to think tales
about how they just managed to get home after a party were funny...