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> > > > "Ray" > wrote in message
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> > > > > "SansMeat" > wrote in message
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> > > > > > "Ray" > wrote in message
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> > > > > > > When I became a vegetarian some thirty odd years ago, there
was
> > > little
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > market to make the transition easy. There was no 'Quorn' or
> > 'Tofu',
> > > > just
> > > > > > > TPV.
> > > > > > > Although TVP can be made palatable by a half decent cook, it
> > remains
> > > > > just
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > 'palatable'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think tofu has been around just wee bit longer than TVP. Since
> > > > > "palatable"
> > > > > > to my understanding means "pleasant tasting" I'm not sure what
> your
> > > > trying
> > > > > > to say in regards to using TVP.
> > > > >
> > > > > My understanding of palatable is "acceptable", and nothing more.
> > > > >
> > > > > My mistake. You are correct.
> > > > > But put yourself in my position some thirty years ago. People like
> > > myself
> > > > > trying to live a decent life, did not have all the knowledge
easilly
> > > > > obtained from the internet. OTOH TVP was easy to obtain and so
were
> > the
> > > > > bland recipes
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now that we have 'Quorn', there is no need for 'would be'
> ethical
> > > > > > > vegetarians to suffer
> > > > > > > from meat withdrawal symptoms. Some of the Quorn products now
on
> > the
> > > > > > market
> > > > > > > taste
> > > > > > > dangerously like meat!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why is it "dangerous" to taste like meat?
> > > > >
> > > > > Depends on your attitude, some may state that if you like the
taste
> of
> > > > meat,
> > > > > you are a hypocite for eating substitutes Remember I usually post
> from
> > > the
> > > > > rough NG aaev, where the real work is done..
> > > >
> > > > But I like grilled portabello mushrooms which are said to have a
> "steak"
> > > > like flavour (which I agree), that shouldn't prevent a vegetarian
from
> > > > eating them should it? I personally don't think flavour should be an
> > issue
> > > > as to whether or not you are a "good" vegetarian.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not familiar with what "NG aaev" is, can you help me here?
> > > ====================
> > > NewsGroup, alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian
> > >
> > > try reading headers..
> >
> > Thanks for jumping in and helping out. I was wondering though, why is it
> > that with every little effort to help there seems to be that slight jab
at
> > someones intelligence or ability to do something that you feel you can
do
> > better? When I offer to help someone I do it out of a sincere desire to
> help
> > someone not to belittle them. If someone falls and I lend a hand up I
> don't
> > chastise them for falling, I simply offer the help. I will in the future
> do
> > my very best to "read headers" so as not to offend or spark any major
> > controversies. Again, thank-you for your kind help and advice.
> ==================
> Some is ignorance, much is terminal stupidity. If you are here on
> newsgroups, and posting to this group, one would think that you would have
> at least a bit of insight as to what was being said, and where you are.
> Obviously, you post with your eyes, and possibly you mind, closed. Is
that
> it? You're welcome, anyway.

Hmm, with no knowledge of who are what I am about I have been labeled as
"terminally stupid" because I failed to read a header? That realy shows
"your" intelligence I think.



> >
> > > but, it might be a rough group for ray and the other ar loons, only
> > because
> > > they've never been able to defend their ignorant vegan religious
> idiocy...
> > > Their hypocrisy reeks here....
> >
> > Why do people in NG's fight about everything?
> ======================
> Where's the fight? vegans are just too ignorant to see the truth. No
> fighting, just illustrating their stupidity...
>
>
>
> I don't see neighbours at war
> > over whether one eats meat and the other doesn't, do you?
> ==================
> Nope, because I don't have any neighbors trying to tell me what I should
> eat. there are vegans here that would declare meat illegal if they had
that
> power.
> There is the difference.

Never mentioned "vegans", seems as though you have a problem with vegans
that has impaired your ability to comprehend a simple conversation on
anything else.



>
> In the NG's its a
> > common occurence to see people fighting with such furor that its almost
> > frightening. If you disagree with the majority of bullies that runs
> whatever
> > NG you are "loon" or a "troll" or whatever other name they label you
with.
> > Certainly there must be others who lurk out there that are sick of this
> and
> > want to speak up but don't want the hassles that come with it. Speak up,
> > lets hear from you so the number of sane people can be seen and perhaps
> you
> > can start your own forum somewhere where you can eliminate the "bullies
> and
> > just get back to having decent discussions without name calling and rude
> > people.
> ==================
> Simple solution to that problem, don't post ignorant, stupid, religious
> idiocy. Which is all that usenet-veganism is.
> Besides, there are no real vegans here on usenet. The unecessary death
and
> suffering of animals would be of real concern to real vegans.
> Usenet vegans prove with each inane post they make that unecessary animal
> death and suffering is not a concern of theirs.

Again, I never mentioned "vegans" or "veganism". You are one-dimensional in
your approach to inter-acting with others it seems.


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