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On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:12:04 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-04-18 9:48 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Sqwertz wrote:

>
>>> Isn't agricultural diesel only discounted for actual farming
>>> operations - when used exclusively for the production of personal
>>> tangible property on your land? You're just growing plain 'ol grass.
>>> That's not farming. And even then, the discount looks to be only
>>> about $.75/gallon when used LAWFULLY.

>>
>> Diesel tax is discounted for any kind of gardening, landscapers get
>> the discount. So long as Agri diesel is not used for road travel it's
>> legal. The price changes because it's discounted on a percentage
>> basis. The concept of a tax discount for Agri use is based on Agri
>> vehicles not damaging roadways and diesel polutes a lot less than
>> gasolene for agricultural purposes, diesel engines are a lot more
>> powerful so use a lot less fuel than gasolene for the same work. My
>> neighbor recently bought a huge zero turn mower but it uses gasolene,
>> he burns twice as many gallons per acre. Also those things have tiny
>> wheels and no four wheel drive... I've already had to tow him out of
>> the spring mud several times last year. He's a nice guy but for 55
>> years old he infantile, he into toys, he has what I call a Bush
>> mobile, and he just bought another ATV.

>
>I don't know how the rules differ in the US from ours. In Ontario is is
>referred to as coloured fuel and it cannot be used on a motor vehicle
>that has been licensed to operate on the road. You can use it for
>heating, lighting, cooking, generating electricity, in unlicenced
>construction equipment,farm vehicles, mining equipment, commercial
>marine vessels, for auxiliary equipment on a motor vehicle if it uses a
>separate tank, and can be used by Indians on a reserve.
>
>The dye indicates that there was no road taxes paid on it.


It's the same here. If I owned a diesel vehical I used for commuting
it would be illegal but as you say for Agri vehicals not licensed for
road use Agri diesel is perfectly legal. I don't need to use my Agri
diesel on my own property, lots of people here use theirs on other
people's land. My property is zoned Agricultural Residential, as is
most property here. There's all sorts of diesel equipment that is not
used for crops and is trailored site to site that are permited to use
Agri diesel, all kinds of earth moving, excavation, logging equipment.
etc. I'm permitted to drive my tractor on the roads too, so long as
it's properly signed, equiped with flashers, and I follow the road use
rules; keep to the shoulders and keep under 10 mph... no one is going
to drive a tractor on roadways more than a mile, tractor tires are too
costly to cause wear by scuffing on pavement, anyone needing to travel
more than a mile will trailor their equipment. Where I live most
everyone is involved with some kind of agriculture, from hauling
livestock feed to haying, to maintaining culverts and dirt roads... no
policeman is going spend all day sitting on private property checking
Agri diesel use. Every day I see far more diesel powered Agri
equipment traveling down my road than I see non Agri vehicals, and I
live on a County road, not a Town road. I use my tractors for all
kinds of use, not just mowing. It's rare to find people in the towns
and burbs who mow with diesel, at most they use those tiny gasolene
powered garden tractors that are really not tractors at all, they are
technically riding lawnmowers designed to look like dwarf tractors.
The golf courses mow with Agri diesel and they grow no crops, I
suppose one could say they got some balls! LOL