On 4/10/2016 11:21 AM, graham wrote:
> On 10/04/2016 11:12 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On 4/10/2016 10:48 AM, Roy wrote:
>>> On Sunday, April 10, 2016 at 10:35:40 AM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On 4/10/2016 7:17 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> I spend 4 days in ICU and another 3 nights in the hospital. I was
>>>>> billed
>>>>> nothing for all that.
>>>>
>>>> So all your fellow citizens could pony up...
>>>
>>> And I was proud to contribute taxes so that he could get medi-care.
>>> One for all and all for one, we are our brother's keeper.
>>> ====
>>>
>> According to data from the Canadian Institute for Health Information, as
>
>> The Fraser Institute of Canada
>
> Neither of those sources is credible! They are far RW "Think tanks" that
> want to privatize everything and take us back to Victorian times!
> Graham
Yeah **** YOU LIAR!
http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-...us-health-care
A top Canadian politician attracted national attention when he decided
to abandon his country’s health care system, which has been suggested as
a model for reforms in the United States, to cross the border in seeking
treatment for a heart condition.
Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams traveled to the United
States in February to undergo heart surgery. The 59-year-old millionaire
is set to spend over three months in America recovering from the operation.
Not Surprised
Sally Pipes, president of the San Francisco-based Pacific Research
Institute, calls Premier Williams’ decision “no surprise.”
“[Premier Williams] is a medical tourist; he went where he obviously
felt he would get the best treatment and where he would not have to
wait. He did not follow [political film documentarian] Michael Moore’s
advice. He came here because in the United States we have the latest and
best technology and treatments and very good health outcomes,” Pipes said.
Opposition politicians in Canada have raised questions about why
Williams decided not to seek heart treatment in Ontario or Toronto, the
heart surgery hubs of the Canadian health care system. Some are
wondering whether Williams' decision to leave Canada for treatment in
the United States reflects an indictment of Canada's health system. He
is not alone in his preference for American care, however, Pipes says.
“[Premier Williams] is not the first. Belinda Stronach who opposed
opening the Canadian health care system, came to America for treatment
when she was diagnosed with breast cancer in June 2007. Robert Bourassa,
twice former Premier of Quebec, when he was diagnosed with multiple
melanoma, came to the United States as well,” Pipes said.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/11/re...-care-in-2011/
The nonpartisan Fraser Institute reported that 46,159 Canadians sought
medical treatment outside of Canada in 2011, as wait times increased 104
percent — more than double — compared with statistics from 1993.
Specialist physicians surveyed across 12 specialties and 10 provinces
reported an average total wait time of 19 weeks between the time a
general practitioner refers a patient and the time a specialist provides
elective treatment — the longest they have ever recorded.
http://dailysignal.com/2010/02/09/th...go-to-america/
A study by Steven Katz, Diana Verilli, and Morris Barer in Health
Affairs examining the Ontario Health Insurance Plan from 1987 to 1995
found “evidence of cross-border care seeking for cardiovascular and
orthopedic procedures, mental health services, and cancer treatments,”
although not widespread. Examples include the governments of British
Columbia and Quebec sending patients to the United States for coronary
artery surgery and cancer treatment. Shona Holmes, a Kingston, Ontario
resident in need of an endocrinologist and neurologist, crossed the
border when she was told to wait “four months for one specialist and six
months for the other.” Karen Jepp delivered identical quadruplets in
Montana “because of a shortage of neonatal beds in Canada,” with the
Calgary health system picking up the tab.
Perhaps Canadians’ health care migration patterns are a result of their
own centralized system of government health care planning and “free
care” crashing into the government’s budget constraints.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/ugl...are-13032.html
The Ugly Truth About Canadian Health Care
Socialized medicine has meant rationed care and lack of innovation.
Small wonder Canadians are looking to the market.
My health-care prejudices crumbled not in the classroom but on the way
to one. On a subzero Winnipeg morning in 1997, I cut across the hospital
emergency room to shave a few minutes off my frigid commute. Swinging
open the door, I stepped into a nightma the ER overflowed with
elderly people on stretchers, waiting for admission. Some, it turned
out, had waited five days. The air stank with sweat and urine. Right
then, I began to reconsider everything that I thought I knew about
Canadian health care. I soon discovered that the problems went well
beyond overcrowded ERs. Patients had to wait for practically any
diagnostic test or procedure, such as the man with persistent pain from
a hernia operation whom we referred to a pain clinic—with a three-year
wait list; or the woman needing a sleep study to diagnose what seemed
like sleep apnea, who faced a two-year delay; or the woman with breast
cancer who needed to wait four months for radiation therapy, when the
standard of care was four weeks.