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On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:33:03 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:23:10 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:18:39 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:59:18 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:14:39 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:52:57 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 12:30:51 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>Coconut oil is healthy if not partially hydrogenated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>School 1:
>>>>>>"Ounce for ounce, coconut oil has more saturated fat than butter, beef
>>>>>>tallow, or lard. “So coconut oil raises LDL cholesterol as much – or
>>>>>>more – than animal fats,” cautions Dr. Kenney."
>>>>>><https://www.pritikin.com/your-health/healthy-living/eating-right/1790-is-coconut-oil-bad-for-you.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>School 2:
>>>>>>"Saturated fat was unfairly demonized a few decades ago by a few
>>>>>>biased but highly influential scientists. However, new studies show
>>>>>>that there is no association between saturated fat and heart disease."
>>>>>><https://authoritynutrition.com/why-is-coconut-oil-good-for-you/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My doctor is from school 1.
>>>>>
>>>>>You need a new doctor. I thought this issue was resolved years ago.
>>>>
>>>>The Australian Heart Foundation is from School 1:
>>>>"Eating a lot of saturated fat increases your blood cholesterol, in
>>>>particular increasing the bad (LDL) cholesterol.
>>>>Choosing foods with healthier fats instead helps to balance your blood
>>>>cholesterol, by increasing the good (HDL) cholesterol and lowering the
>>>>bad (LDL) cholesterol, which reduces your risk of heart disease."
>>>>
>>>><http://heartfoundation.org.au/healthy-eating/food-and-nutrition/fats-and-cholesterol/saturated-and-trans-fat>
>>>>
>>>>At the very least, it's clear that this matter was not "resolved many
>>>>years ago".
>>>
>>>I disagree. As far as I'm concerned, the 'heart foundation' lives in
>>>the stone-age.

>>
>>I know you disagree, but it shows that this matter wasn't resolved
>>years ago. Personally, I'll just follow my doctor's advice.

>
>Fair enough, I prefer to go on decades of anecdotal evidence, also
>research on native cultures whose diets were traditionally high in
>saturated fats.


But they lead completely differnt lives from us. Lots of factors are
different between them and us. It's hard to say what causes what.

Or look at the Japanese. Relatively big smokers, but they get quite
old because they do other things well, such as eat healthy.

>The term 'saturated fats' is a problem to begin with because it
>doesn't make any distinction between any type of saturated fats.
>They're all lump under one umbrella.


Yes, there are differences in the degree to which they increase bad
cholesterol. I also don't mean to say you can't eat anything with
saturated fat at all.

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Bruce