On 3/17/2016 12:54 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 4:35:50 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 3/17/2016 12:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2016-03-17 5:06 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On 3/17/2016 3:25 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 18:40:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 8:03:50 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 12:32:27 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 4:54:21 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You a nurse too? I know about HTN and dietary salt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please present some statistics on how many hypertensives are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive to salt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just posted a link to where some of it started. See, the
>>>>>>>>> USA >>> > > doesnt really 'study' this, they just know a segment are
>>>>>>>>> salt >>> > > related.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really hoped Kuthe would do his own homework. Ah, well, ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the optimist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The actual testing Don and I had done validate that many will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have hypertension (HTN which John tried to be cute about not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translating). It also showed clearly that it is not
>>>>>>>>> 'universal' >>> > > which John probably does not know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I eat a metric boatload of salt, and my BP is fine. I probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>> add more salt to my morning oatmeal than some of the salt
>>>>>>>>> nannies >>> > eat in an entire day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's in the excerpt that it's safe to reduce salt for all of
>>>>>>>>> us >>> > > and that it was too expensive to conduct detailed
>>>>>>>>> studies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, sure. It wouldn't hurt me to reduce my salt intake, but
>>>>>>>>> it >>> > probably wouldn't do any good, either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly Cindy. Unless you have a condition that salt may be
>>>>>>>>> related >>> to, a normal salt diet is fine. If you do have a
>>>>>>>>> condition such as >>> hypertension (BP issues) then it doesnt
>>>>>>>>> harm to
>>>>>>>>> try a reduced salt >>> to see if it lessons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you switch to and eat a lot of "salt substitutes", namely
>>>>>>>>>>> the ones substituting Potassium Chloride for Sodium Chloride,
>>>>>>>>>>> which my father who had HTN did years ago, them when his MD ran a
>>>>>>>>>>> blood test and found his potassium levels very high, MD told my
>>>>>>>>>>> father not to do that!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood
>>>>>>>>>>> can do? I do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> John, you may tell us you are an RN but guess what, you know
>>>>>>>>>> less on
>>>>>>>>>> healthy diet than Julie does.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have spent countless hours studying diet, starting with back
>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>> became a vegetarian. I wanted to make sure that I was eating a
>>>>>>>>> balanced diet. And due to my various medical problems, I tend
>>>>>>>>> towards vitamin and mineral deficiencies which I always try to
>>>>>>>>> address first with diet, then supplements because that isn't enough.
>>>>>>>>> I've been having stiff knees so am eating more celery. Why? The
>>>>>>>>> sodium.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could be shrimp, shell on, might be a better solution?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would never eat shrimp. Just doesn't smell or look appealing.
>>>>>>> Endo.
>>>>>>> thinks it is because I am not on a high enough dose of thyroid med.
>>>>>>> Because
>>>>>>> I now have no thyroid at all, I have to be super careful about
>>>>>>> taking my
>>>>>>> med. The surgeon was rather treating me like someone that only
>>>>>>> wanted to
>>>>>>> know the simple stuff and that's not me. Thankfully my Endo. realizes
>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>> He gave me a copy of the labs from the other Dr. I told him that
>>>>>>> had I
>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>> those labs, I would have known that the TSH was off. I was at the
>>>>>>> upper
>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>> of the range. I won't get too much into the thyroid stuff because
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> without a thyroid problem likely won't care. But with thyroid labs, a
>>>>>>> high
>>>>>>> figure means hypo (low thyroid) and a low figure means hyper (high
>>>>>>> thyroid).
>>>>>>> And the labs are really just a piece of paper. The range is rather
>>>>>>> wide
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> if a person is still having symptoms then they are not on the right
>>>>>>> dose
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> med for them. I left the paper in the car so I can't tell you
>>>>>>> exactly but
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> was close to 5.0 and he said I need to be closer to 1.0. So he
>>>>>>> upped my
>>>>>>> dose a bit. I know from past experience that it can take a few
>>>>>>> days to
>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>> better on a new dose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julie, does your endocrinologist know that you refer to him as "my
>>>>>> Endo"?
>>>>>> Not very good form to familiarize his profession status in such a way.
>>>>>> If I were to refer to my Thoracic surgeon as "my Thoracic guy", it
>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>> go over too well with his peers, I am sure.
>>>>>> By the way, confidential consultations with your "Endo" should remain
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> that...CONFIDENTIAL AND SECRET. Relating his conclusions and your
>>>>>> rebuttal
>>>>>> to them are not our business either...PLEASE remember that. If he
>>>>>> were to
>>>>>> hear of your behaviour in this regard, he would ream your ass out,
>>>>>> but good.
>>>>>> ====
>>>>>
>>>>> Then he'd be her Procto. . .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't know how those docs can stand being the butt of jokes every
>>>> single day.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2X_XNdmWws
>>>
>>> I think they like this one better:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_43f9RzAqMM
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That's a nice guitar. The player looks like Dennis Wolfburg. I love that
>> guy!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r9LAYaIvP4
>
> Dat vas a very funny clip...tanks!
> ====
>

I enjoyed it myself - again.