On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 4:35:50 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On 3/17/2016 12:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2016-03-17 5:06 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >> On 3/17/2016 3:25 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 18:40:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Roy" > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 8:03:50 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 12:32:27 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 4:54:21 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You a nurse too? I know about HTN and dietary salt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please present some statistics on how many hypertensives are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive to salt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I just posted a link to where some of it started. See, the
> >>>>>>> USA >>> > > doesnt really 'study' this, they just know a segment are
> >>>>>>> salt >>> > > related.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I really hoped Kuthe would do his own homework. Ah, well, ever
> >>>>>>>>>>> the optimist.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The actual testing Don and I had done validate that many will
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have hypertension (HTN which John tried to be cute about not
> >>>>>>>>>>>> translating). It also showed clearly that it is not
> >>>>>>> 'universal' >>> > > which John probably does not know.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I eat a metric boatload of salt, and my BP is fine. I probably
> >>>>>>>>>>> add more salt to my morning oatmeal than some of the salt
> >>>>>>> nannies >>> > eat in an entire day.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's in the excerpt that it's safe to reduce salt for all of
> >>>>>>> us >>> > > and that it was too expensive to conduct detailed
> >>>>>>> studies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, sure. It wouldn't hurt me to reduce my salt intake, but
> >>>>>>> it >>> > probably wouldn't do any good, either.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Exactly Cindy. Unless you have a condition that salt may be
> >>>>>>> related >>> to, a normal salt diet is fine. If you do have a
> >>>>>>> condition such as >>> hypertension (BP issues) then it doesnt
> >>>>>>> harm to
> >>>>>>> try a reduced salt >>> to see if it lessons.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Unless you switch to and eat a lot of "salt substitutes", namely
> >>>>>>>>> the ones substituting Potassium Chloride for Sodium Chloride,
> >>>>>>>>> which my father who had HTN did years ago, them when his MD ran a
> >>>>>>>>> blood test and found his potassium levels very high, MD told my
> >>>>>>>>> father not to do that!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood
> >>>>>>>>> can do? I do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> John Kuthe...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> John, you may tell us you are an RN but guess what, you know
> >>>>>>>> less on
> >>>>>>>> healthy diet than Julie does.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have spent countless hours studying diet, starting with back
> >>>>>>> when I
> >>>>>>> became a vegetarian. I wanted to make sure that I was eating a
> >>>>>>> balanced diet. And due to my various medical problems, I tend
> >>>>>>> towards vitamin and mineral deficiencies which I always try to
> >>>>>>> address first with diet, then supplements because that isn't enough.
> >>>>>>> I've been having stiff knees so am eating more celery. Why? The
> >>>>>>> sodium.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Could be shrimp, shell on, might be a better solution?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would never eat shrimp. Just doesn't smell or look appealing.
> >>>>> Endo.
> >>>>> thinks it is because I am not on a high enough dose of thyroid med.
> >>>>> Because
> >>>>> I now have no thyroid at all, I have to be super careful about
> >>>>> taking my
> >>>>> med. The surgeon was rather treating me like someone that only
> >>>>> wanted to
> >>>>> know the simple stuff and that's not me. Thankfully my Endo. realizes
> >>>>> this.
> >>>>> He gave me a copy of the labs from the other Dr. I told him that
> >>>>> had I
> >>>>> seen
> >>>>> those labs, I would have known that the TSH was off. I was at the
> >>>>> upper
> >>>>> end
> >>>>> of the range. I won't get too much into the thyroid stuff because
> >>>>> people
> >>>>> without a thyroid problem likely won't care. But with thyroid labs, a
> >>>>> high
> >>>>> figure means hypo (low thyroid) and a low figure means hyper (high
> >>>>> thyroid).
> >>>>> And the labs are really just a piece of paper. The range is rather
> >>>>> wide
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> if a person is still having symptoms then they are not on the right
> >>>>> dose
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> med for them. I left the paper in the car so I can't tell you
> >>>>> exactly but
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> was close to 5.0 and he said I need to be closer to 1.0. So he
> >>>>> upped my
> >>>>> dose a bit. I know from past experience that it can take a few
> >>>>> days to
> >>>>> feel
> >>>>> better on a new dose.
> >>>>
> >>>> Julie, does your endocrinologist know that you refer to him as "my
> >>>> Endo"?
> >>>> Not very good form to familiarize his profession status in such a way.
> >>>> If I were to refer to my Thoracic surgeon as "my Thoracic guy", it
> >>>> wouldn't
> >>>> go over too well with his peers, I am sure.
> >>>> By the way, confidential consultations with your "Endo" should remain
> >>>> just
> >>>> that...CONFIDENTIAL AND SECRET. Relating his conclusions and your
> >>>> rebuttal
> >>>> to them are not our business either...PLEASE remember that. If he
> >>>> were to
> >>>> hear of your behaviour in this regard, he would ream your ass out,
> >>>> but good.
> >>>> ====
> >>>
> >>> Then he'd be her Procto. . .
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> I don't know how those docs can stand being the butt of jokes every
> >> single day.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2X_XNdmWws
> >
> > I think they like this one better:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_43f9RzAqMM
> >
> >
>
> That's a nice guitar. The player looks like Dennis Wolfburg. I love that
> guy!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r9LAYaIvP4

Dat vas a very funny clip...tanks!
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