On 3/17/2016 12:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-03-17 5:06 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 3/17/2016 3:25 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 18:40:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 8:03:50 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 12:32:27 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 4:54:21 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You a nurse too? I know about HTN and dietary salt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please present some statistics on how many hypertensives are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive to salt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just posted a link to where some of it started. See, the
>>>>>>> USA >>> > > doesnt really 'study' this, they just know a segment are
>>>>>>> salt >>> > > related.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I really hoped Kuthe would do his own homework. Ah, well, ever
>>>>>>>>>>> the optimist.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The actual testing Don and I had done validate that many will
>>>>>>>>>>>> have hypertension (HTN which John tried to be cute about not
>>>>>>>>>>>> translating). It also showed clearly that it is not
>>>>>>> 'universal' >>> > > which John probably does not know.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I eat a metric boatload of salt, and my BP is fine. I probably
>>>>>>>>>>> add more salt to my morning oatmeal than some of the salt
>>>>>>> nannies >>> > eat in an entire day.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's in the excerpt that it's safe to reduce salt for all of
>>>>>>> us >>> > > and that it was too expensive to conduct detailed
>>>>>>> studies.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, sure. It wouldn't hurt me to reduce my salt intake, but
>>>>>>> it >>> > probably wouldn't do any good, either.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Exactly Cindy. Unless you have a condition that salt may be
>>>>>>> related >>> to, a normal salt diet is fine. If you do have a
>>>>>>> condition such as >>> hypertension (BP issues) then it doesnt
>>>>>>> harm to
>>>>>>> try a reduced salt >>> to see if it lessons.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unless you switch to and eat a lot of "salt substitutes", namely
>>>>>>>>> the ones substituting Potassium Chloride for Sodium Chloride,
>>>>>>>>> which my father who had HTN did years ago, them when his MD ran a
>>>>>>>>> blood test and found his potassium levels very high, MD told my
>>>>>>>>> father not to do that!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood
>>>>>>>>> can do? I do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John, you may tell us you are an RN but guess what, you know
>>>>>>>> less on
>>>>>>>> healthy diet than Julie does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have spent countless hours studying diet, starting with back
>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>> became a vegetarian. I wanted to make sure that I was eating a
>>>>>>> balanced diet. And due to my various medical problems, I tend
>>>>>>> towards vitamin and mineral deficiencies which I always try to
>>>>>>> address first with diet, then supplements because that isn't enough.
>>>>>>> I've been having stiff knees so am eating more celery. Why? The
>>>>>>> sodium.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could be shrimp, shell on, might be a better solution?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would never eat shrimp. Just doesn't smell or look appealing.
>>>>> Endo.
>>>>> thinks it is because I am not on a high enough dose of thyroid med.
>>>>> Because
>>>>> I now have no thyroid at all, I have to be super careful about
>>>>> taking my
>>>>> med. The surgeon was rather treating me like someone that only
>>>>> wanted to
>>>>> know the simple stuff and that's not me. Thankfully my Endo. realizes
>>>>> this.
>>>>> He gave me a copy of the labs from the other Dr. I told him that
>>>>> had I
>>>>> seen
>>>>> those labs, I would have known that the TSH was off. I was at the
>>>>> upper
>>>>> end
>>>>> of the range. I won't get too much into the thyroid stuff because
>>>>> people
>>>>> without a thyroid problem likely won't care. But with thyroid labs, a
>>>>> high
>>>>> figure means hypo (low thyroid) and a low figure means hyper (high
>>>>> thyroid).
>>>>> And the labs are really just a piece of paper. The range is rather
>>>>> wide
>>>>> and
>>>>> if a person is still having symptoms then they are not on the right
>>>>> dose
>>>>> of
>>>>> med for them. I left the paper in the car so I can't tell you
>>>>> exactly but
>>>>> I
>>>>> was close to 5.0 and he said I need to be closer to 1.0. So he
>>>>> upped my
>>>>> dose a bit. I know from past experience that it can take a few
>>>>> days to
>>>>> feel
>>>>> better on a new dose.
>>>>
>>>> Julie, does your endocrinologist know that you refer to him as "my
>>>> Endo"?
>>>> Not very good form to familiarize his profession status in such a way.
>>>> If I were to refer to my Thoracic surgeon as "my Thoracic guy", it
>>>> wouldn't
>>>> go over too well with his peers, I am sure.
>>>> By the way, confidential consultations with your "Endo" should remain
>>>> just
>>>> that...CONFIDENTIAL AND SECRET. Relating his conclusions and your
>>>> rebuttal
>>>> to them are not our business either...PLEASE remember that. If he
>>>> were to
>>>> hear of your behaviour in this regard, he would ream your ass out,
>>>> but good.
>>>> ====
>>>
>>> Then he'd be her Procto. . .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't know how those docs can stand being the butt of jokes every
>> single day.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2X_XNdmWws
>
> I think they like this one better:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_43f9RzAqMM
>
>

That's a nice guitar. The player looks like Dennis Wolfburg. I love that
guy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r9LAYaIvP4