On 2016-03-17 5:06 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 3/17/2016 3:25 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 18:40:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 8:03:50 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 12:32:27 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 4:54:21 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You a nurse too? I know about HTN and dietary salt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please present some statistics on how many hypertensives are
>>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive to salt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just posted a link to where some of it started. See, the
>>>>>> USA >>> > > doesnt really 'study' this, they just know a segment are
>>>>>> salt >>> > > related.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I really hoped Kuthe would do his own homework. Ah, well, ever
>>>>>>>>>> the optimist.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The actual testing Don and I had done validate that many will
>>>>>>>>>>> have hypertension (HTN which John tried to be cute about not
>>>>>>>>>>> translating). It also showed clearly that it is not
>>>>>> 'universal' >>> > > which John probably does not know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I eat a metric boatload of salt, and my BP is fine. I probably
>>>>>>>>>> add more salt to my morning oatmeal than some of the salt
>>>>>> nannies >>> > eat in an entire day.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's in the excerpt that it's safe to reduce salt for all of
>>>>>> us >>> > > and that it was too expensive to conduct detailed studies.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, sure. It wouldn't hurt me to reduce my salt intake, but
>>>>>> it >>> > probably wouldn't do any good, either.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Exactly Cindy. Unless you have a condition that salt may be
>>>>>> related >>> to, a normal salt diet is fine. If you do have a
>>>>>> condition such as >>> hypertension (BP issues) then it doesnt harm to
>>>>>> try a reduced salt >>> to see if it lessons.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unless you switch to and eat a lot of "salt substitutes", namely
>>>>>>>> the ones substituting Potassium Chloride for Sodium Chloride,
>>>>>>>> which my father who had HTN did years ago, them when his MD ran a
>>>>>>>> blood test and found his potassium levels very high, MD told my
>>>>>>>> father not to do that!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood
>>>>>>>> can do? I do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John, you may tell us you are an RN but guess what, you know less on
>>>>>>> healthy diet than Julie does.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have spent countless hours studying diet, starting with back when I
>>>>>> became a vegetarian. I wanted to make sure that I was eating a
>>>>>> balanced diet. And due to my various medical problems, I tend
>>>>>> towards vitamin and mineral deficiencies which I always try to
>>>>>> address first with diet, then supplements because that isn't enough.
>>>>>> I've been having stiff knees so am eating more celery. Why? The
>>>>>> sodium.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could be shrimp, shell on, might be a better solution?
>>>>
>>>> I would never eat shrimp. Just doesn't smell or look appealing. Endo.
>>>> thinks it is because I am not on a high enough dose of thyroid med.
>>>> Because
>>>> I now have no thyroid at all, I have to be super careful about
>>>> taking my
>>>> med. The surgeon was rather treating me like someone that only
>>>> wanted to
>>>> know the simple stuff and that's not me. Thankfully my Endo. realizes
>>>> this.
>>>> He gave me a copy of the labs from the other Dr. I told him that had I
>>>> seen
>>>> those labs, I would have known that the TSH was off. I was at the
>>>> upper
>>>> end
>>>> of the range. I won't get too much into the thyroid stuff because
>>>> people
>>>> without a thyroid problem likely won't care. But with thyroid labs, a
>>>> high
>>>> figure means hypo (low thyroid) and a low figure means hyper (high
>>>> thyroid).
>>>> And the labs are really just a piece of paper. The range is rather
>>>> wide
>>>> and
>>>> if a person is still having symptoms then they are not on the right
>>>> dose
>>>> of
>>>> med for them. I left the paper in the car so I can't tell you
>>>> exactly but
>>>> I
>>>> was close to 5.0 and he said I need to be closer to 1.0. So he
>>>> upped my
>>>> dose a bit. I know from past experience that it can take a few days to
>>>> feel
>>>> better on a new dose.
>>>
>>> Julie, does your endocrinologist know that you refer to him as "my
>>> Endo"?
>>> Not very good form to familiarize his profession status in such a way.
>>> If I were to refer to my Thoracic surgeon as "my Thoracic guy", it
>>> wouldn't
>>> go over too well with his peers, I am sure.
>>> By the way, confidential consultations with your "Endo" should remain
>>> just
>>> that...CONFIDENTIAL AND SECRET. Relating his conclusions and your
>>> rebuttal
>>> to them are not our business either...PLEASE remember that. If he
>>> were to
>>> hear of your behaviour in this regard, he would ream your ass out,
>>> but good.
>>> ====
>>
>> Then he'd be her Procto. . .
>>
>>
>>
>
> I don't know how those docs can stand being the butt of jokes every
> single day.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2X_XNdmWws

I think they like this one better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_43f9RzAqMM