On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 17:04:50 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 2/10/2016 4:16 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:12:12 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/10/2016 11:16 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> Yes, I've seen the innocent pleasure of being mauled by dogs, run over
>>>> by cars etc., lazy owners and nothing more. Cats can do all of those
>>>> things indoors with proper equipment, and they can also be outside in
>>>> protective kennels, but lazy owners would sooner wax poetic about the
>>>> joys of animals running free, while remaining lazy and irresponsible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Thank you, Cheri! When Persia was alive I had a mesh kitty enclosure
>>> and I'd let her go outside in that. She wasn't killing birds, not even
>>> when the small sparrows hopped through the mesh and got right in with
>>> her. She looked at them like they were oddities.
>>>
>>> Toys (and owner interaction) provide plenty of physical stimulation.
>>> The owners need to take time to play with the cat. Domestic cats don't
>>> need to kill things to be happy.
>>>
>>> Again, I think it's a cultural difference. I wouldn't dream of letting
>>> my cat outide.
>>
>> Not everyone live in urban or built-up areas.
>>
>I have never lived in an urban or built-up area.

From what I've seen of Dataw Island, it's a built up area? It is by
standards anyway.

>Even when I was still
>in west Tennessee I lived as far away from the "city" (Memphis) as
>possible. There was still traffic on the neighborhood streets, people
>who let dogs run loose, etc. Just not a good environment for cats to be
>running around outside.

It doesn't sound like a good environment for them to running loose to
me either, but that IMO is what I call an urban or built up area.

>And really, it's not necessary in order for
>them to be happy. It's much healthier for them to stay inside.

It all depends on circumstances, including the cat itself. Mine are
safe outside here. Realistically, the only possible danger to them
would be a tiger snake.