On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 19:03:00 +1100, Xeno >
wrote:

>On 3/02/2016 6:33 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 18:00:30 +1100, Xeno >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/02/2016 5:51 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 17:26:12 +1100, Xeno >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/02/2016 5:22 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/2/2016 16:02 Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/02/2016 6:52 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2016 23:41 Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/02/2016 8:42 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2016 20:17 Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/02/2016 8:09 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2016 19:51 Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To me neither. I'm not even sure what the current kerfuffle is about.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is 'have a go' at Ophelia month) Woohooo !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what you did to cause this. I missed bits because we
>>>>>>>>>>>> weren't home for a day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're not allowed to go AWOL. Consider yourself reprimanded and don't
>>>>>>>>>>> do it again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I won't do it again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Promise?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We were in Ipswich, where they have heat waves and bad aircos
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ipswich? Yeah, I could believe that. It's far enough inland. Was up at
>>>>>>>>> Pacific Pines on the Gold Coast a few weeks back and it was inland just
>>>>>>>>> far enough to really humid and uncomfortable. You really need the sea
>>>>>>>>> breeze up there to make things livable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, it was 40 C or predicted to become that when we left. And my car
>>>>>>>> has no airco
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Time you bought a new and better equipped car.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, my car always looks better than most others in the
>>>>>> parking lot. Wind tunnels were the end of good looking cars.
>>>>>>
>>>>> OK, go retrofit an A/C system into it. Trust me, you'll love it!
>>>>
>>>> I think the car is airco prepared, but it doesn't have one.
>>>> Personally, I always prefer to feel the real temperature. Especially
>>>> in a car, with the windows open, which always creates a nice breeze.
>>>>
>>> You sound like my wife. She doesn't like the A/C. Trouble is, modern
>>> cars aren't really designed to be driven with windows wound down,
>>> especially the rear windows.
>>
>> I'm lucky then. I don't have a modern car and it also doesn't have
>> rear windows
>>
>> But why would they design a car with windows that shouldn't be opened?
>>
>Claustrophobia. People like to look out of windows. Same as a lot of
>office buildings now have windows that cannot be opened. If you have A/C
>you really don't need opening windows.
>
>Modern cars are much more streamlined than in the past. That
>streamlining is done with the assumption windows are closed. Open
>windows destroy the benefit. As a case in point, my Corolla cannot be
>driven above 50kph with the rear windows open. Sure, there's no
>inhibitor that prevents you doing it but the pressure wave pulsations
>inside the car guarantee you won't leave the windows down for very long.
>I've driven or owned a number of post 2000 cars and they all tend to
>exhibit the same tendency towards pressure wave pulsations when windows
>are down, some being much worse than my current car. The front windows
>are not as bad but wind noise becomes an issue at any reasonable highway
>speed. I hate wind noise with a passion! That's why these devices were
>invented. http://tinyurl.com/hk8agrj There is also the rain factor
>caused, again, by vehicle design with windows canted inwards at the top
>to a much greater degree than was the case in the 50s and 60s.
>
>Even when I don't want A/C on, I still get redirectable fresh air
>through the vents so it's no big deal really.

I understand what you're saying, but I'd rather be in touch with the
outside than in a controlled cubicle. Maybe it would be different if I
had to drive a lot on a regular basis.

This is my kind of driving:
http://www.dba-oracle.com/images/redneck_pickup.jpg

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Bruce