MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 2:13:13 PM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 11:07:12 -0500, Nancy Young
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/9/2015 10:52 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 11/9/2015 10:28 AM, MaryL wrote:
>>>>> On 11/9/2015 6:59 AM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>>>>>> I love my SIL. She is very nice, and has a great sense of humor, but
>>>>>> GOD DAMN IT, serving a SMOKED turkey from the GOD DAMNED grocery store
>>>>>> on GOD DAMNED Thanksgiving is completely unacceptable. There is no
>>>>>> way that I am sitting at a table with that crappy turkey, and my son
>>>>>> wants a real turkey too.
>>>
>>> So you're teaching your son bad manners? That should serve him
>>> well in life.
>>>
>>>>> I would be disappointed if smoked turkey were served for Thanksgiving
>>>>> dinner (although I enjoy it for lunches), but I would never say anything
>>>>> about it. If someone invites me for Thanksgiving dinner (as they have
>>>>> this year), the only way I would reject anything is if I am allergic to
>>>>> it. For example, I am allergic to fish and I do pass on that. Even so,
>>>>> I just do not eat it but do not talk about it. If a real roast turkey
>>>>> is so important to you, perhaps you should offer to take on for the
>>>>> dinner so your SIL will not have to make one.
>>>
>>>> There ya go. I see absolutely no reason to accept an invitation if he
>>>> doesn't like what she's going to serve. Make your own turkey, don't
>>>> complain about free food that hasn't even happened yet.
>>>
>>> I don't like a lot of smoked foods, either, that's why I'd eat sides
>>> and be happy with that. If I'm desperate for a turkey made the way
>>> I like it, I'll make my own.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>> Knowing this far in advance a gentleman would offer to roast and bring
>> a turkey...
>>
> They live 30+ minutes away. That wouldn't be practical.

Are you insane?

Moot question.

There's this thing they make called a "cooler" - you cn also uise it to
transport a large bird, fully cooked!

Who knew?


>> than everyone would have a choice of smoked turkey and
>> Bwrrryan's Walmart turkey imported from China.
>
> Dumbass Sheldon, the USA is an exporter of turkeys *to* China,

Good!

> and we do not import any significant amount of poultry.

But we do still import:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0JM1YY20141208

The United States has suspended imports of live and raw poultry from the
Canadian province of British Columbia due to an outbreak of bird flu
virus, the U.S. Department of Agriculture's chief veterinary officer
told Reuters on Monday.

The restrictions began on Dec. 4, the same day that Canada identified
the virus as a "highly pathogenic" H5N2 strain, said John Clifford, the
USDA's chief veterinarian.

"It's a temporary ban," Clifford said in a telephone interview, adding
that the ban will likely last several months.

Canada and Chile are the two biggest suppliers of imported poultry to
the United States, said Tom Super, spokesman for the National Chicken
Council in Washington, D.C., while noting that 99 percent of the chicken
eaten in the United States is hatched, raised and processed in the country.


> Your WalMart turkeys are hatched,
> raised and processed in the USA.

Not for long though:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/31/bu...o-us.html?_r=0

The Department of Agriculture on Friday approved four Chinese poultry
processors to begin shipping a limited amount of meat to the United
States, a move that is likely to add to the debate over food imports.

Initially, the companies will be allowed to export only cooked poultry
products from birds raised in the United States and Canada. But critics
predicted that the government would eventually expand the rules, so that
chickens and turkeys bred in China could end up in the American market.

“This is the first step towards allowing China to export its own
domestic chickens to the U.S.,” said Tony Corbo, the senior lobbyist for
Food and Water Watch, an advocacy group that works to promote food safety.

http://www.meatpoultry.com/articles/...5CF02%7D&cck=1

In 2004, China asked USDA to audit its processing plants so poultry
could be exported, according to the agency. In 2009, the US Congress
lifted a ban on Chinese-processed poultry. After a final audit of
China’s plants in March, USDA agreed in August that China’s facilities
were equivalent to those in the US. According to the agreement, chicken
sent to China for processing must be raised and slaughtered in either
the US or Canada, and all poultry must be fully cooked at least 165.2°F
before being delivered back to the US for consumption. USDA inspections
will take place at US borders, while agency auditors will audit China’s
poultry processing system annually.

> "The United States is by far the world's largest turkey producer, followed by the European Union. Even though exports are a major component of U.S. turkey use, the United States consumes more turkey per capita than any other country."
> source-- http://www.farm-equipment.com/articl...n-thanksgiving
>
> --Bryan