On 10/16/2015 5:09 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 14:34:13 -0600, Arroyo seco > wrote:
>
>> On 10/15/2015 2:05 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 02:26:40 +0000 (UTC), "Yes"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 22:19:57 +0000 (UTC), "Yes"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kalmia wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Off topic - Are there any consumer refrigerator manufacturers
>>>>> who >> make >> refrigerators for use in the home that devote say 60%
>>>>> of the >> machine to >> freezer space and the remainder to cold
>>>>> space. It >> seems like the >> ratios for regular refrigerators may
>>>>> be 20% freezer >> and 80% cold.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why do you want so much freezer space? Are you 100 miles from
>>>>> your >> > food source? I'd rather have more COLD. For me, the
>>>>> freezer is >> > just a place to lose or forget stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For me the solution was simple, I acquired a second refrigerator
>>>>>>> freezer, for $100 from a used appliance store, granted it's no
>>>>> frills >> but no one sees it in my basement, twelve years later it's
>>>>> still >> working fine. For very little money I have lots of both
>>>>> extra fridge >> and freezer space... also solves the problem of what
>>>>> to do with the >> produce from my vegetable garden. I like the idea
>>>>> of a second >> fridge-freezer just in case my main unit stops
>>>>> working, I have a place >> to move the food.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AND - in case any fridge designers are reading this -- how about
>>>>> a >> > foot pedal to open the door when we're laden with stuff to put
>>>>> away? >>
>>>>>>> That won't solve the problem, you'll still have both arms full,
>>>>> get a >> cart/small table on wheels... although a properly designed
>>>>> kitchen has >> counter space adjacent to the fridge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not a feasible solution for me. I live in a 1,000 sq. ft. condo
>>>>>> with a galley style kitchen built in the late 70s. It was laid out
>>>>>> quite well for then, but attitudes, designs and gadgets have
>>>>>> changed drastically since then. My budget hasn't. sigh.
>>>>>
>>>>> All you'd need is a small cart that folds for storage... how many
>>>>> times do you shop in a week? Most times when I do a large shopping I
>>>>> place all the bags on the kitchen floor, items for the fridge right
>>>>> next to... more than half what I buy gets carried down to the
>>>>> basement. I mostly use those cloth/insulated shopping bags. My only
>>>>> shopping problem is keeping the cats out of the bags... Barny can claw
>>>>> open a 20 pound bag of dried in a heart beat. I have to keep dried
>>>>> cat food in 6 gallon galvanized covered pails, I have several. I'm
>>>>> positive you don't buy more groceries than I do, I buy more groceries
>>>>> in critter food than a family of ten.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you need to move, to a real house.
>>>>
>>>> Have a spare $400K then?
>>>
>>> Seems you have Champagne taste with a beer pocketbook.
>>> Move to where real estate is less expensive. Where I live one can buy
>>> a very nice 3 bedroom 1,500 sq ft house on several acres for half that
>>> price, and plenty of well paying jobs of all kinds nearby.... search
>>> real estate in Albany County, NY.
>>>
>>
>> Yabutt...
>>
>> You get some crappy winters there.
>>
>> Good cheap real estate can be found all over the desert southwest, and
>> you don't have to buy snow tires.
>
> I enjoy the four seasons and I've never owned snow tires... the roads
> in upstate NY are plowed scrupulously clean in winter...

Yeah, yeah, whatevea...

It's always perfection in your little reality distortion bubble innit?

> the snow
> scape is gorgeous and give this bear a great hibernation fron outside
> work. I tried So Cal living for five years, hated it, the most boring
> existence, the most boring people, and every one you meet is
> transient, here today gone tomorrow and without so much as an adios...

SoCal ain't the desert southwest, HTH!