"james" > wrote in message
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> Folks that I know like to make "wine" without using wine yeast. I
> guess that they depend on wild yeast. Some of their wine that I have
> tasted tastes like sweetened vinegar. They say that it is wine, I
> think that it is vinegar. I don't have a test that I can perform on
> the wine to prove an alcohol content.My nose is not sensitive enough
> to detect the vinegar odor. Is there an objective test to settle such
> a disagreement? Can alcohol and vinegar both exist in the same liquid?
> Thanks,
> James

The only test I have ever used is taste. That is enough for me. If they
like it why spoil it for them with a test. If you really want to prove your
point just make your one and let them taste the difference.

Yes they can both exist in the wine but not forever. The bacteria that
makes vinigar will slowly consume the alcohol, converting it to vinigar.
This may take 6 months to seveal years but during that time both will exist.

Ray