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Default Whole Wheat Bread Flour

On 31/10/2014 7:29 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:02:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:59:50 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>> On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 23:08:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My CSA had this on sale so I bought a small bag but now I can't find a
>>>>>> single recipe that calls for it! All of the recipes that take bread
>>>>>> flour
>>>>>> use regular bread flour and then if they are a whole wheat bread,
>>>>>> additional
>>>>>> whole wheat flour. Does anyone have any recipes that use this? I would
>>>>>> even be willing to make something with eggs and milk in it for my
>>>>>> husband
>>>>>> and daughter if it would use up the flour. I could use the cupboard
>>>>>> space!
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Very common. There are not that many recipes for whole wheat bread
>>>>> that are made solely with whole wheat bread flour. A recipe for
>>>>> whole wheat bread that uses only whole wheat bread flour tends to be
>>>>> very dense and sticky/tricky to knead.. Recipes will call for a
>>>>> combination of whole wheat bread flour and white bread flour to
>>>>> overcome the problems. Also, most people do not care for the taste of
>>>>> bread made only with whole wheat flour. You can find recipes for
>>>>> oatmeal, rye bread and others that also use whole wheat flour in
>>>>> combination.
>>>>> When talking about baking bread, it is understood that you mean whole
>>>>> wheat bread flour.
>>>>> It would not be a good idea to try to make cookies or similar with
>>>>> whole wheat bread flour as it will make them tough. It is understood
>>>>> that when making something other than bread, you are going to use
>>>>> whole wheat PASTRY flour. Check Winco bulk bins and you will see both
>>>>> are available there. I believe that the supplier for the bulk bins is
>>>>> Bob's Red Mill.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> I actually haven't found *any* recipes that call for whole wheat bread
>>>> flour. Only whole wheat flour and bread flour. I know about whole wheat
>>>> pastry flour. I used it up and don't intend to buy more. We just don't
>>>> eat
>>>> much in the way of sweets here.
>>>
>>> "Only whole wheat flour and bread flour" is whole wheat bread flour
>>> and white bread flour.
>>> Whole wheat flour in a bread recipe is understood to be whole wheat
>>> bread flour. The only other option for whole wheat is whole wheat
>>> pastry flour. . Recipes do not specifically call for Whole Wheat Bread
>>> Flour because it is expected that everyone will know that it means the
>>> stuff that isn't pastry flour. Whole wheat flour that isn't whole
>>> wheat pastry flour is bread flour,.
>>> Read it all again, slowly.
>>> Janet US

>>
>> No! The recipes that I see call for regular bread flour and whole wheat
>> flour. And it is not understood to be that because other people are asking
>> the same question. If they meant whole wheat bread flour and whole wheat
>> white flour then it would say that. The recipe I have been using
>> specifically calls for bread flour *and* whole wheat flour. Not the same
>> thing. And yes, I know that it isn't pastry flour. And neither is whole
>> wheat flour. Methinks you don't know what you are talking about. Whole
>> Wheat Pastry flour is not the same as Whole Wheat flour which also isn't the
>> same as Whole Wheat Bread flour.

>
> Look here
> http://www.kingarthurflour.com/flours/
> and then here
> http://www.kingarthurflour.com/recip...s-bread-recipe
>
> yes, I understand the bread flour and whole wheat flour thing. I know
> they are not the same thing. I can't help if you are reading comments
> from others who don't understand. I'm telling you how it is. Ask
> Ophelia or Graham or cshenk. You are reading what I have said
> incorrectly.
>

I plonked her sometime ago so I can't respond directly to her, and I
can't be bothered to respond indirectly either after reading subsequent
posts:-(
Graham