"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
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> Cheryl wrote:
>> On 6/24/2014 4:26 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>> Moe DeLoughan wrote:
>>>> On 6/24/2014 11:44 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>>>> notbob wrote:
>>>>>> No doubt most of you have seen that Alton Brown has lost a buncha
>>>>>> weight. His DIY diet with four lists. Looks like I could live
>>>>>> with that one. Is there any specifics? I notice the his video
>>>>>> is all over the place, but only part 1, the 2nd part having been
>>>>>> quashed by copyright nonsense. In part 1, he alludes to a book,
>>>>>> "Buff, Like Me", or whatever, but I suspect it's jes one of his
>>>>>> usual jokes, as I can find no such pub. Anyone have any details?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nb
>>>>>
>>>>> You'd be amazed by what just eating "clean" can do. Meat, leaves
>>>>> and berries - eat nuts, eat _lots_ of fat of all kinds except the
>>>>> man-made kind, eat lots of protein, eat lots of vegetable, cut out
>>>>> most or all of the bread, pasta, and the like, and be moderate with
>>>>> fruit as well, and watch your body composition improve.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also limit the number of times you eat each day. Research has found
>>>> that the liver is busy doing one of two things: secreting enzymes to
>>>> help break down the food you recently ate, or secreting enzymes to
>>>> break down your body fat. The more frequently you eat, the less time
>>>> your liver has to spend on breaking down body fat. If you can manage
>>>> it, the ideal is to consume your meals (limited to two if you can do
>>>> it) within an eight-hour window, leaving your liver sixteen hours to
>>>> work on body fat. Even if you don't cut back on calories, you will
>>>> still lose a modicum of weight since you're giving your liver more
>>>> time to deal with existing body fat.
>>>
>>> I agree with this 100%. It's really a question of that old saw,
>>> "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger." If you feed yourself
>>> constantly, you are addressing the symptom, hunger, without
>>> strengthening yourself and it eventually weakens you - in my humble
>>> opinion. -S-
>>>
>>>
>> This goes 180 degrees away from the suggestions I was given by a
>> nutrition coach just a couple of weeks ago. He said to eat 5 meals a
>> day to keep up your metabolism. 5 small meals with plenty of protein,
>> veggies and fruit. Breakfast within 1/2 hour of awaking in the
>> morning, a mid-morning snack, lunch, an afternoon snack and dinner.
>> Snacks should be fruit, nuts or raw veggies.
>
> The correct response here is "it depends." For most people most of the
> time, eating 5 meals a day is like wearing cushy running shoes. Everyone
> thought - for years, for decades - that what we needed was to wear
> cushioned shoes that prevented our feet from pronating. They have lately
> figured out, however, that those very shoes are what makes us feel better
> for a while but eventually makes most people worse as they lose their
> natural ability to absorb shock with a proper footstrike as their foot
> lands underneath them. Put on the cushy shoe and you start overstriding
> to the front, you start landing heels first, and you just mess up what
> _was_ a perfectly good system of shock absorbtion give to you by Mother
> Nature.

Wow! I didn't know that. Angela had to do a lot of running in Jr. High so
I took her to Nordstrom to get her some really good running shoes. Guy had
her stand with her heels against the wall and said that she did something or
other in terms of pronation so needed the $160 Asics. That was the year
that she got plantar fascitis! I then had to take her back for larger shoes
to accomodate the braces she needed to wear until she healed. I still think
it was the running that caused the issue. The gym teachers at that school
were just big into running and felt it was the best form of exercise.

I found out later that much of the time she didn't even wear those shoes and
preferred to just wear whatever athletic shoes she had on that day.

When she took the aerobics class (different school), the teacher cautioned
them not to buy any special shoes and just use whatever athletic shoes they
had.
>
> Yes, if all you do is sit on your ass all day, you may find you can't
> figure out how to run without cushy shoes. That would be your (not you
> personally, Cheryl, of course) problem. Get off your ass, walk a couple
> of miles every day, and you'll be able to learn how to run without cushy
> shoes.
>
> The same applies to frequent feedings. We were born and bred not to live
> that kind of life. Our bodies do all sorts of good things when we _don't_
> eat, fasting is a religious tradition that goes back thousands of years,
> and you simply don't need to eat 5 times a day. But, of course, you can't
> switch cold turkey to eating less often any more than you can pick 300
> lbs. up off the floor, which I can, because I took my time and learned how
> to do it and then I practiced it a lot, a real lot.
>
> There are people who need to eat often, but they're generally big and
> trying to get bigger, e.g., they're professional athletes of some sort in
> a sport where being 250 lbs. is considered small. Those people should eat
> all the time.
>
> But for the rest of us, the saying that what doesn't kill you makes you
> stronger is still true, and the best thing everyone with a weight problem
> can do is learn to be a little hungry and not panic at that feeling.
> Being a little hungry for part of every day is a good thing.

However, if you have blood sugar issues then one of the worst things you can
do is to not eat. You could either have low blood sugar and pass out or in
my case, if I don't eat when I should, my blood sugar will shoot sky high.
It is quite possible that I also had a low in there and missed it because I
don't always have symptoms.
>
> There are plenty of people giving out old advice, plenty of doctors who
> will still tell you to take statins and avoid naturally occuring saturated
> fats, and a whole lot of other things that go against the way our bodies
> were designed to work. If anyone wishes to take that sort of advice, that
> would again be their problem.
>
> For the record, I'm 59 years old and I picked 350 lbs. up off the floor at
> a powerlifting competition 2 weekends ago, setting a new New Jersy state
> record for my age and weight (149 lbs.) class. My body composition is
> good, all my blood markers are good, my resting pulse is in the 50's, my
> blood pressure is on the low side of average, and I walk about 10 miles a
> week and I lift weights most days. I eat one meal per day, at dinner, and
> I have very little before that - coffee or tea, water, and a few spoonfuls
> of nut butter, a protein bar, or both. Tonight's dinner was pan-seared
> scallops, spinach sauteed in coconut and olive oils, and grilled peppers
> and onions, no bread, no alcohol, no sweets, plenty of spices like garlic
> and black pepper, no salt - and it was absolutely delicious.
>
> Now be careful or I'll tell you what I really think.

Heh.