On 2/21/2014 12:13 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 2/21/2014 11:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 2/21/2014 10:37 AM, wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 20, 2014 5:56:19 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 2/20/2014 5:06 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In the old days, my frequent script ran like this:
>>>>
>>>>> Hostess: "Smoking or non?"
>>>>> Me: "Non-kid...do you have a quiet corner?"
>>>>
>>>>> Ate in a nice place one night - and the kid 2 booths down was SO
>>>>> bad with the incessant screaming, a huge round of applause from the
>>>>> entire roomful of diners broke forth when they were leaving. The
>>>>> adults gave a dirty look but I don't know how they could stand it
>>>>> themselves.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Because that was their little *darling* that was screaming! How
>>>> *dare* anyone get upset with their cute little tyke?!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> From 2012:
>>>
>>> http://thestir.cafemom.com/food_part...30/lzdakIX97os
>>>
>>> By Julie Ryan Evans.
>>>
>>> First three paragraphs:
>>>
>>> "Here we go again with the child-adverse masses out to squelch any
>>> sign or
>>> sound of youth from their daily lives. Cappy's Pizza in Florida is the
>>> latest
>>> establishment to jump on the bandwagon by officially banning rowdy
>>> kids with
>>> a ridiculously patronizing sign right when you walk in the door.
>>> "It reads: 'Parents for the safety and comfort of everyone if you
>>> allow your
>>> child to run/scream/or misbehave, party will be asked to leave.'
>>> Kids are completely banned from the back patio. Talk about giving a
>>> parent
>>> indigestion before she's even ordered. If I saw a sign like that when
>>> I walked
>>> into a restaurant -- especially a pizzeria decked out with video games
>>> and
>>> other stuff that caters to kids -- I'd be walking right back out again.
>>>
>> (snippety)
>>
>> I'd be glad to see her back as she left the establishment! I'm not
>> adverse to children. But is it really asking too much for children to
>> behave?
>
> You'd think that she'd wonder Why are these restaurants resorting
> to policies like this? Better yet, This sign doesn't affect me
> because my children were taught how to act in a restaurant, and
> if they start making a scene/screaming, we leave anyway.
>
> Instead she lashes out that people don't like children.
>
Seems it's easier to lash out at the restaurants (and patrons) who don't
want to put up with ill-behaved children than to ask them to behave in
public.

> I've eaten in restaurants many times where there were plenty of
> children but you wouldn't know it unless you looked around or
> listened for little voices. Maybe sometimes a little crying,
> like just the other day, but the parents don't let it go on and
> escalate until everyone's annoyed.
>
Children cry. Ever think it might not be a good idea to take the kid to
a restaurant if he/she hasn't had a nap that afternoon? Tired/bored =
cranky. There's a reason there was nap time when we were in
Kindergarten.

> Obviously plenty of people are able to teach their children how
> to act in public, it's not impossible.
>
> nancy

It's certainly not impossible. It would never have occurred to us to
run rampant wreaking havoc in a restaurant. There are a lot of well
behaved children. It's the ones whose parents have absolutely no
control who seem to be astonished when a restaurant expects them to
<gasp> take responsibility.

Jill