"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:11:47 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
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>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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>>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 21:13:01 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>We bought this house in 2004. Gas water heater in "garage". Garage
>>>>meaning
>>>>that this room has no heat and has a garage type door. The door is
>>>>almost
>>>>the width of my van, minus the side mirrors. The inside does extend
>>>>slightly beyond the door but not by much. It does go slightly deeper on
>>>>part of the one side where the small work bench is. Then beyond that is
>>>>a
>>>>small piece of wall, then the water heater set back between that piece
>>>>of
>>>>wall and a utility sink. Water heater is on a metal, elevated platform.
>>>>The rest of the room is used for storage as it is too small to drive
>>>>either
>>>>of our vehicles into it.
>>>>
>>>>So... Dec. 31 at midnight, I went out there to get some soda pop and
>>>>saw
>>>>rusty water beginning to trickle out of the water heater. Husband
>>>>immediately shut something off. The water to it? Not sure. At any
>>>>rate,
>>>>he did the right thing according to Day and Nite Plumbing. At some
>>>>point
>>>>that day, they came out and installed a new Bradford White tank. They
>>>>also
>>>>had to retrofit it and put one of those little tanks (overflow?) at the
>>>>top.
>>>>Plumber had a super hard time getting the new one in the tight space
>>>>because
>>>>the newer tanks are not quite as tall and much bigger around. He also
>>>>redid
>>>>the silver things (pipes?) at the top because he said they were comical.
>>>>Past owner remodeled this house and badly so likely they did this.
>>>>Whatever
>>>>this pipe/tube thing was, it was far too long and rather than cutting it
>>>>off, they just put a bizarre series of loops in it. Plumber said he had
>>>>never seen anything like it.
>>>>
>>>>A few months went by. No problems. Then the pilot light went out. We
>>>>hadn't had a windy day and I was baffled. I relit it although I had a
>>>>lot
>>>>of problems getting it to light. This kept happening, at first at 2-3
>>>>month
>>>>intervals, then more like every few weeks.
>>>>
>>>>When we bought the house, there had been a small piece of pegboard cut
>>>>to
>>>>fit that had been sitting loose and propped at the bottom of the stand
>>>>that
>>>>the tank is on. Plumber took that out as it would not fit the space
>>>>with
>>>>the new tank, sticking out off of the stand as it is.
>>>>
>>>>My dad surmised that somehow the pegboard was preventing the wind from
>>>>getting up under the tank and advised me to put something else there.
>>>>Which
>>>>I did. Three baking pans in assorted sizes. You see in the middle of
>>>>the
>>>>tank at the bottom, some parts jut downwards which is why I needed a
>>>>small
>>>>sized pan for the middle.
>>>>
>>>>Problems continued and got more frequent. When I found myself having
>>>>to
>>>>relight weekly, I called the plumber again. This time he said I may
>>>>have
>>>>caused the problem by putting the baking pans there. Obviously not as
>>>>the
>>>>problem had occurred prior and that is why I put them there.
>>>>
>>>>The wires on the front had been hanging loose. I never thought that
>>>>looked
>>>>right. He wound up replacing those, the thermocoupler and all but one
>>>>other
>>>>part in there. Can't remember what that was.
>>>>
>>>>Tank was fine for about 2 months then the problems began again. Getting
>>>>worse and worse with annoying frequency until I had to relight it 6
>>>>times
>>>>in
>>>>one day! So I called again. Had been putting off calling because even
>>>>though it is under warranty, the warranty does not include labor. And
>>>>it
>>>>seems to cost me a minimum of $250 each time they come out.
>>>>
>>>>Plumber said that he needed for me not to relight the tank and to call
>>>>them
>>>>right away to get a code from it. The problem there? It often goes out
>>>>in
>>>>the middle of the night. They can't come out right away despite them
>>>>claiming to offer 24/7 service. And that code is gone after about a
>>>>half
>>>>an
>>>>hour. So because they can never seem to get the error code, they are
>>>>pretty
>>>>much shooting in the dark as to what is wrong with it.
>>>>
>>>>So on Sept. 15, 2012, they wound up just giving me a new tank. Turns
>>>>out
>>>>that the one they had installed prior was totally dented up on the back
>>>>side. I thought perhaps this was the problem. I sat there in the
>>>>garage
>>>>watching this other plumber like a hawk. My normal plumber had the day
>>>>off.
>>>>No problems so far as I could see.
>>>>
>>>>Can't remember how long this tank lasted before the pilot light went
>>>>off.
>>>>But it did. And at first it was like 2-3 months between times. But
>>>>now?
>>>>We are down to about once a week, sometimes twice a week. It's to the
>>>>point
>>>>where I find myself checking it hourly when home and always just before
>>>>I
>>>>go
>>>>to bed. Sometimes it is windy when this happens but often not. Plumber
>>>>did
>>>>say that the only other thing that could be a problem is the roof vent.
>>>>Which when I do call them again, I will have them check. But... This
>>>>last
>>>>time I played hell relighting it. Tried for about a half an hour before
>>>>it
>>>>would light. And of course in the middle of the night.
>>>>
>>>>So... Any clues? People keep telling me it is the thermocouple and
>>>>online
>>>>searches say the same but... Searches also tell me that the
>>>>thermocouple
>>>>should last longer than that. And the weird part is that once the
>>>>problems
>>>>do start, they seem to follow the same pattern of coming with increasing
>>>>frequency. Also weird that the old tank never had to be relit.
>>>>
>>>>Could it be just because this one sticks out further into the room?
>>>>Sometimes when I am working out there with the garage door to the
>>>>outside
>>>>open, it does go out. I am just getting frustrated! I want hot water
>>>>and
>>>>I
>>>>don't want to keep calling the plumber. Also can't afford to go with
>>>>those
>>>>thankless things. Not sure how many we'd have to get. This is a small
>>>>house but we do have two bathrooms. Also a laundry room and that garage
>>>>sink. I think if I have read this correctly, I would need a tank for
>>>>each
>>>>sink. Not sure how the laundry room factors in so... Maybe 4 tanks?
>>>>Also
>>>>not sure where those tanks would be located but... Too rich for my
>>>>blood
>>>>so
>>>>not an option.
>>>>
>>>>Anyone have any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Couldn't you keep it to 100 woids or less?
>>>
>>> Anyway your plumber is a MOROON... installed the same POS!
>>>
>>> Should have installed a new tankless on-demand water heater... and you
>>> already have the gas set up.
>>> I love mine, should have done it years ago... in less than a year it
>>> has already paid for itself. Watch the short video:
>>> http://www.rinnai.us/tankless-water-heater
>>> No tank, about the size of a carry on bag, sits out of the way on a
>>> wall:
>>> http://i43.tinypic.com/34slb7l.jpg
>>
>>I was just looking at tankless. My bro had just gotten them prior but...
>>Theirs were very expensive and they had to get several of them. I thought
>>that I needed one for each room of the house and looking online, some
>>sources even said that I would need one for each sink, shower, tub,
>>dishwasher, etc. That would be too expensive for me! But looking at
>>sites
>>that sell them, like Home Depot, it looks like I might only need the one
>>and
>>I don't think they are more expensive than what I have. I think my tank
>>was
>>somewhere around $1,000 and it was another $1,000 for installation. But I
>>could be wrong on that. Only remember that the total was something like
>>$2,200. I do have the bill but don't want to look it up.
>>
>>The tank I have is not considered to be a bad one. It's a good brand.
>>And
>>the next time I need a new one I will likely go tankless. I will at least
>>ask about it.
>
> Julie Bove epitomizes ****ING IDIOT.
> Pinheads the likes of Julie Bove should by law be euthanized.
> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .

Sheldon, you just don't know what you're talking about.